New drop in housing starts raises a big recession question

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Key Concepts

• Market Bubble: A situation where asset prices rise significantly above their intrinsic value, driven by hype and speculation, often leading to a sharp decline.
• MAG 8: Refers to the eight largest technology companies (including Broadcom) that constitute a significant portion (40%) of the S&P 500.
• GARP (Growth at a Reasonable Price) Models: Investment strategies that seek companies with growth potential but also reasonable valuations, often using metrics like the PEG ratio.
• PEG Ratio (Price/Earnings to Growth Ratio): A valuation metric that compares a company's P/E ratio to its expected earnings growth rate. A PEG ratio of 1 is often considered fair value.
• Moving Average: A technical analysis indicator that calculates the average price of an asset over a specified period, smoothing out price fluctuations to identify trends. Common examples include the 50-day and 200-day moving averages.
• Golden Cross: A bullish technical signal occurring when a short-term moving average (e.g., 50-day) crosses above a long-term moving average (e.g., 200-day).
• Death Cross: A bearish technical signal occurring when a short-term moving average crosses below a long-term moving average.
• Federal Reserve's Inflation Target: The Federal Reserve's goal of maintaining inflation at 2%, officially adopted in 2012, with roots in the 1990s.
• Terminal Rate of Fed Funds: The expected future level of the federal funds rate, which significantly influences longer-term interest rates like the 10-year Treasury yield.
• Monetarist vs. Keynesian Economics: Monetarism emphasizes the role of money supply in economic activity, while Keynesian economics focuses on aggregate demand and government intervention.
• Housing Recession: A period of decline in housing market activity, characterized by falling housing starts and prices, which historically often precedes a broader economic recession.
• Income Strategies: Investment approaches focused on generating regular income, such as through bonds, dividend stocks, preferred stocks, and covered calls.

Market Outlook and Valuation

Main Topics: The current market sentiment, the valuation of AI leaders, and the potential for a market bubble.

Key Points:

• The market is hovering close to record highs, with AI leaders appearing pricey. Investors are debating whether this is a healthy rerating or the beginning of a bubble.
• Jay Hatfield, founder and CEO of Infrastructure Capital Advisers, expresses a "non-consensus" bullish view, targeting 7,000 for the S&P 500, which he considers a full valuation at 23 times earnings.
• He also projects a 7,900 target for the end of next year, based on 23 times 27 earnings, suggesting the market is not excessively overvalued.
• Hatfield believes the market is stabilizing, with moving averages indicating a constructive environment. He notes that "really stupid things" like Bitcoin and Bitcoin treasury stocks are being "annihilated," which he sees as a positive sign of market discipline and a return to valuation-based investing.
• He acknowledges that while some may see the current market as disconnected from general sentiment, this is often due to the cyclical nature of fear and greed. Greed dominates during earnings seasons (especially tech earnings), followed by fear and short-seller narratives after earnings conclude. This post-earnings dip can present buying opportunities.

Supporting Evidence/Details:

• S&P 500 valuation at 23 times earnings is considered full.
• Moving averages: currently below the 50-day but above the 100-day, suggesting stabilization.
• "MAG 8" (major tech companies) are seen as a good proxy for market health due to their significant weighting in the S&P 500.

Market Bubble Discussion

Main Topics: Defining a market bubble and assessing the current market for bubble characteristics, particularly concerning AI.

Key Points:

• A market bubble occurs when asset prices surge far beyond their true value due to hype and speculation, often ending in a crash.
• Hatfield uses the "MAG 8" as a key indicator for assessing bubble potential. His GARP and PEG ratio models show the MAG 8 are currently "1.5% cheap," indicating they are fully valued but not in a bubble.
• He presents a contrarian view that bubbles can be beneficial as they attract capital and innovation, leading to the emergence of dominant companies. The opportunity lies in identifying these companies early.
• He suggests that while the MAG 8 might become overvalued in the future, the current "fairly valued" state is encouraging. A bubble might persist until the Fed tightens policy.

Supporting Evidence/Details:

• MAG 8 constitutes 40% of the S&P 500.
• PEG models indicate MAG 8 are 1.5% cheap.
• Historical context: Capital flows to areas of high potential returns, leading to overvaluation and eventual consolidation.

Market Show and Tell: Moving Averages

Main Topics: Explanation and application of moving averages in technical analysis.

Key Points:

• Moving averages smooth out price data to reveal trends. The 50-day and 200-day moving averages are commonly used.
• The 50-day moving average has been significant recently, with the S&P 500, the Philly Semiconductor Index, and Nvidia breaking through it.
• Golden crosses (50-day above 200-day) are bullish, while death crosses (50-day below 200-day) are bearish.
• Hatfield views moving averages as a tool to avoid entering assets at the wrong time, especially in asset classes lacking fundamental valuation (like crypto).
• He uses the 50-day moving average as a gauge for risk. For example, being significantly above the 50-day moving average (like gold was previously) suggests a potential pullback. Conversely, being above the 100-day and below the 50-day could signal a good entry point.
• Moving averages are best used in conjunction with fundamental analysis. The recommended order is: 1. Assess valuation (fundamentals). 2. Use charts (moving averages) to determine entry and exit points.
• He advises investors not to be afraid to trim positions (e.g., sell 5-10%) rather than trying to time the market perfectly.

Supporting Evidence/Details:

• Example: Gold was 20% above its 50-day moving average, suggesting it was a risky time to buy.
• Current market: Above the 100-day moving average and below the 50-day, potentially indicating a good entry point.
• Strategy: Fundamentals first, then technicals for timing.

Inflation and the Federal Reserve

Main Topics: The Federal Reserve's 2% inflation target, its historical impact, and the implications of potential Fed policy changes.

Key Points:

• The 2% inflation target, officially adopted by the Fed in 2012, was originally an arbitrary target set by the New Zealand Central Bank in the 1970s without empirical evidence.
• Hatfield argues that the Fed's rigid adherence to this target has been detrimental, contributing to recessions. He cites the 17 rate hikes from 2004-2007, which preceded the Great Financial Crisis.
• He believes that every US recession since World War II has been caused by Fed tightening.
• The current calculation of inflation is problematic, and the 2% target is too precise and too low. He suggests flexibility, stating that 3% inflation is not significantly more damaging than 2%.
• He advocates for nominal wage growth and modest inflation over the deflationary impact of overly tight monetary policy, which he calls an "enemy of the middle class."
• The Fed's excessive money supply growth during the pandemic (70% increase) led to inflation. Conversely, the current 6% shrinkage in money supply is also dangerous.
• The tenure (10-year Treasury yield) is driven by expectations of the terminal rate of Fed funds.
• Hatfield anticipates a new Fed chair who will be more of a "monetarist" and less "Keynesian," focusing on money supply and likely cutting rates. The timing of the cut (December, January, or March) is less critical than the eventual cut itself.
• He prefers Christopher Waller as a potential Fed chair candidate due to his monetarist leanings and accurate calls, emphasizing the need to focus on money supply.

Supporting Evidence/Details:

• 2% inflation target originated in New Zealand in the 1970s.
• Fed raised rates 17 times between 2004 and early 2007.
• Money supply increased by 70% during the pandemic.
• Money supply is currently shrinking at 6%.
• Preferred Fed chair candidate: Waller, due to his monetarist approach and focus on money supply.

Housing Market and Recession Indicators

Main Topics: The state of the housing market and its relationship to broader economic recessions.

Key Points:

• There is a "housing recession" occurring, characterized by weak construction and slow growth, but it has not yet triggered a widespread economic recession.
• This is unusual because historically, a housing market crash has been a primary transmission mechanism for monetary policy leading to recessions.
• The economy has become less cyclical. While housing starts have fallen to around 1.2 million (a level that typically signals recession), the tech sector's growth in areas like power and data centers has offset the broader economic impact.
• The Fed's focus on the arbitrary 2% inflation target, rather than adjusting to the current economic conditions, is a concern.

Supporting Evidence/Details:

• Housing starts dropped to approximately 1.2 million.
• Previous housing booms saw around 2.4 million starts (in the 1970s) and 1.7 million starts (post-GFC).
• Tech sector growth is offsetting the housing slowdown.

Market Income Strategies: Basketball vs. Tennis

Main Topics: Comparing different income-generating investment strategies.

Key Points:

• The "basketball baller" represents classic income portfolios: bonds, dividend stocks, and simple credit, aiming for reliable income.
• The "tennis tactician" represents strategies like preferred stocks, real estate income, and covered calls, aiming for smooth, repeatable income.
• Hatfield advises against choosing one over the other, emphasizing the importance of diversification.
• He recommends a diversified approach for investors, including income-generating assets.
• For riskier fixed income, he suggests high-yield bonds and preferreds, especially now that the Fed is loosening policy (contrasting with the early 2022 tightening cycle where investment-grade was preferred).
• He also advocates for large-cap dividend stocks and even small-cap stocks.
• While acknowledging the growth potential of tech, he cautions against risking everything on it. A balanced portfolio with income and growth components can achieve overall returns of 11-12%.
• He strongly advises against investing in companies or cryptocurrencies that do not produce cash flow, comparing it to gambling.

Supporting Evidence/Details:

• Recommendation: Diversification across income and growth assets.
• Preference for riskier fixed income (high-yield bonds, preferreds) in a loosening monetary environment.
• Balanced portfolio example: Half of expenses from income, with tech for growth, leading to 11-12% overall return.
• Warning: Avoid non-cash-flow-producing assets.

Conclusion and Takeaways

Main Takeaways:

• The market is currently in a constructive, albeit fully valued, phase, with a bullish outlook for the S&P 500.
• While AI leaders appear expensive, they are not currently in a bubble according to valuation models. Bubbles can be opportunities, but current valuations are seen as reasonable.
• Technical indicators like moving averages are valuable tools for timing market entries and exits, but should be used in conjunction with fundamental analysis.
• The Federal Reserve's 2% inflation target is criticized as arbitrary and detrimental, with a call for more flexibility and a focus on money supply. A shift towards a monetarist approach is anticipated with a new Fed chair.
• The housing market is in a recession, but its impact on the broader economy is currently being offset by tech sector growth.
• Diversification is key for income generation, combining various income strategies with growth assets, while avoiding non-cash-flow-producing investments.