Big IPOs Like Spacex Play The Passive Mindless Game To Perfection!!!

By Value Investing with Sven Carlin, Ph.D.

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Key Concepts

  • Total Addressable Market (TAM): A metric often used to justify massive valuations by projecting the total potential revenue of a market, which the speaker warns is frequently speculative.
  • Price-to-Sales (P/S) Ratio: A valuation metric comparing a company's stock price to its revenue. The speaker highlights current trends of companies trading at 100x revenue.
  • Passive Investing/Index Inclusion: The practice of institutional funds and 401(k) plans automatically buying stocks based on market capitalization, which forces capital into high-valuation IPOs.
  • Value Investing: An investment strategy focused on buying securities that appear underpriced by some form of fundamental analysis (e.g., P/E ratios of 10).
  • Bag Holder: An investor who holds a position in a security that has lost all or most of its value, often left holding the asset after institutional investors have exited.

Market Exuberance and Valuation Trends

Sven Carlin critiques the current market environment characterized by "100 times revenue" IPOs and massive valuations for non-profitable companies. He specifically points to SpaceX, which is rumored to be targeting a valuation between $1.5 trillion and $2 trillion.

  • The SpaceX Case: Despite generating less than $20 billion in annual revenue, the company is being valued at levels that would place it among the top companies in the world. Carlin notes that SpaceX’s valuation has doubled in just six months (from $800 billion to potentially $2 trillion), a growth rate he views as disconnected from fundamental reality.
  • The "TAM" Trap: Carlin argues that relying on TAM projections—such as the $28 trillion potential market for space exploration—is a red flag for investors. He compares this to historical propaganda regarding industrial output, suggesting that these figures are often promises rather than actionable financial data.

The Mechanics of IPO Inflation

Carlin explains a cyclical process where early-stage investors and banks artificially inflate valuations before an IPO:

  1. Pre-IPO Funding: Early investors push for higher valuations in private rounds. The higher the valuation, the more they stand to gain when the company goes public.
  2. Institutional Offloading: Banks set high price targets to attract institutional capital.
  3. Forced Buying: Because many 401(k) plans and index funds are mandated to buy stocks based on market capitalization, they are forced to purchase these overvalued shares upon inclusion, effectively acting as the "exit liquidity" for early investors.

Historical Context and Risk Assessment

Carlin draws a parallel between the current market and the dot-com bubble of the early 2000s.

  • The 25-Year Perspective: He highlights that of the top 10 companies from 25 years ago (e.g., GE, Pfizer, Cisco), most have either gone bankrupt or failed to provide significant long-term returns, with Microsoft being the notable exception.
  • The Nasdaq Crash: He reminds viewers that in the early 2000s, the Nasdaq crashed by 85% when similar exuberance surrounding high-valuation companies collapsed.
  • Current Risks: He expresses concern that today’s top 10 list is dominated by companies trading at 100x revenue, which he considers a dangerous departure from the "good companies" (like Walmart or established banks) that anchored the market in previous decades.

Investment Philosophy

Carlin maintains a disciplined approach to value investing:

  • Fundamental Focus: He rejects the "price-to-sales of 100" model in favor of traditional metrics, such as a Price-to-Earnings (P/E) ratio of 10.
  • Risk Management: His goal is to perform well during market downturns. He argues that while he cannot "fight" the current market trend, he refuses to participate in speculative bubbles that jeopardize retirement savings.

Notable Quotes

  • "The higher the valuation is, the more will be the IPO, and the more the 401k holders will pay, and they will get their money back a few times, while investors, passive investors, mindless, perhaps deservedly, will be the bag holders."
  • "I will buy at a price earnings of 10, not price to sales of 100. Stick to what I do."

Synthesis

The core takeaway is a warning against the current trend of "mindless" passive investing into hyper-valued, non-profitable companies. Carlin argues that the current market structure—driven by index inclusion and speculative TAM projections—creates a dangerous environment for retail investors. He advocates for a return to fundamental value investing, emphasizing that while the current "party" may continue, the inevitable market reversion will punish those who ignored valuation metrics in favor of speculative growth.

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