10 n8n Shiny Objects That Wasted My Time (1,000+ Hours Later)

Jono CatliffAbout 6 min readAug 18, 2025Watch original
THE SUMMARYAI-generated

Key Concepts:

  • Shiny Objects: Distractions that pull you away from your goals.
  • AI Agents: Software entities that can perform tasks autonomously.
  • MCP (Model Context Protocol): A protocol for AI agents to communicate with each other.
  • NAN Pricing: The pricing structure of the NAN platform, including the community edition.
  • Workflow Complexity: The level of intricacy in automation workflows.
  • Shiny Builds/Tools: Attractive but ultimately unproductive projects or software features.
  • Perfectionism: Striving for flawless results, often at the expense of efficiency.
  • Humans in the Loop: Incorporating human oversight in automated processes.
  • AI Model Code Generation: Using AI to generate code for NAN builds.
  • RAG (Retrieval Augmented Generation): A technique for enhancing AI models with external knowledge.
  • Voice AI Calling: Using AI to automate phone calls.

1. Over-Reliance on AI Agents

  • AI agents are a current buzzword in automation, but they are not always necessary or the best solution.
  • Example: An AI agent used to extract data from Telegram messages (invoices/images) and input it into a Google Sheet. This can be achieved more efficiently with a simple switch node.
  • AI agents can introduce errors, especially in critical business processes. A 10% error rate in a multi-million dollar business can lead to significant losses.
  • Rule of thumb: If a workflow can be easily built without an AI agent, it's generally better to do so.
  • AI agents should not be used retroactively, where you have to manually prompt them. Instead, use schedulers to fully automate the process.
  • Good use case: When there is thinking or reasoning involved, or an infinite amount of possibilities. For example, a chatbot that can handle a wide range of requests.

2. MCP (Model Context Protocol)

  • MCP allows AI agents to communicate with each other (e.g., sending data from NAN to Claude and back).
  • The speaker argues that MCP is essentially just another interface for communicating with AI agents, similar to text messages, Telegram, or other chat platforms.
  • MCP client tool is a way of sending data from NADN to Claude.
  • Example: Using MCP to send data from make.com to Claude to book calendar events, when a sub-node in NAN can achieve the same result more efficiently.
  • Sub-nodes can often perform the same tasks as MCP without the added complexity and potential for errors.

3. NAN Pricing and the "Free" Community Edition

  • The NAN community edition is free, but it's a misnomer to think it's truly free.
  • Self-hosting the community edition requires either cloud hosting (which costs money) or running it on a local computer.
  • Running it on a local computer requires technical expertise (NodeJS) and has uncertain uptime (e.g., if your Wi-Fi goes down).
  • Even with self-hosting, you'll likely need to pay for cloud hosting to ensure uptime.
  • Cloud setup can be done in 3 minutes, while computer setup can take days or weeks due to debugging.
  • Hosting options: Hostinger (used by the speaker), Railway (cheapest), AWS (pay-per-usage, but can be expensive upfront).

4. Workflow Complexity

  • The speaker used to equate complex workflows with quality, but now dislikes them.
  • Complex workflows are often fragile, inflexible, and redundant.
  • Example: A workflow that can be condensed from many steps to just three.
  • Clients are primarily interested in results (saving time or money), not the complexity of the workflow.
  • Complexity is like a first draft of an essay – a brain dump that needs to be cleaned up.

5. Shiny Builds, Shiny Tools, and Perfectionism

  • The speaker admits to being guilty of pursuing shiny builds, shiny tools, and perfectionism.
  • Example: Building an AI agent that looks cool but doesn't provide the desired utility.
  • Analogy: Building a high-rise. Shiny objects are like the interior design and panoramic views, while the fundamentals are like the concrete and structure.
  • Focus on building boring automations that move the needle (save time, make money).
  • Shiny tools can distract from high-leverage activities.
  • Perfectionism can lead to spending excessive time on tasks with low ROI. Evaluate the potential impact before investing time.

6. Not Including Humans in the Loop

  • It's important to include human oversight in automated processes, especially when brand reputation is at stake.
  • Example: Generating blog posts entirely with AI. While efficient, the content may not accurately represent the brand.
  • Solution: A system where AI generates a draft blog post, which is then reviewed and tweaked by a human before publishing.
  • This ensures that published content aligns with the brand and maintains quality.

7. Using AI Models to Generate NAN Builds

  • AI can generate 30-70% of a NAN build, which is helpful for beginners.
  • However, it's not a perfect solution and may not save much time in the long run.
  • The last 20% of the build (debugging, refining) can take 80% of the time.
  • Sometimes it's easier to start from scratch than to debug AI-generated code.
  • AI-generated code is not 100% perfect and should not be relied upon as a complete solution.

8. RAG (Retrieval Augmented Generation)

  • RAG is a technique for enhancing AI models with external knowledge, like a chatbot connected to a company's database.
  • It's useful for answering frequently asked questions.
  • However, it's not a silver bullet and has limitations.
  • RAG cannot perform major summarizations because it breaks down documents into smaller chunks.
  • It struggles with summarizing chapters, identifying main highlights, counting phrase occurrences, understanding document structure, and referencing scattered facts.
  • Garbage in, garbage out: RAG's output is only as good as the data it's trained on. Inconsistent or outdated data will lead to inaccurate responses.

9. Voice AI Calling

  • Voice AI calling can be used to automate phone calls and book appointments.
  • The technology is improving, but it's not a complete replacement for human beings.
  • Limitations: Latency, difficulty understanding nuances, inability to build rapport and trust, pronunciation errors, edge cases, hallucinations.
  • The speaker believes that voice AI is not suitable for high-ticket sales because it cannot build the necessary trust.
  • Reputation: Some people may be turned off by being contacted by a voice AI.
  • Conversion rates may be lower with voice AI.
  • Legal considerations: Voice AI may not be fully legal in all circumstances.
  • Example: Comparing the profitability of human sales reps versus voice AI. Even if voice AI is cheaper, the lower closing rate can result in less overall profit.
  • Voice AI may be suitable for customer service at scale, but not for high-pressure sales situations.

10. Synthesis/Conclusion

The video emphasizes the importance of avoiding "shiny objects" in automation and focusing on practical solutions that deliver tangible results. While AI and automation tools offer exciting possibilities, it's crucial to critically evaluate their effectiveness and potential drawbacks. Over-reliance on AI agents, chasing the latest technologies (like MCP), and striving for perfection can lead to wasted time and resources. Instead, prioritize simplicity, human oversight, and a clear understanding of the business goals. The speaker advocates for a balanced approach, where technology is used strategically to enhance human capabilities, rather than replace them entirely.

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