What They're Not Telling Us About The Coming Conflict - This Attack is 'Imminent': Simon Hunt

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Key Concepts

• Geopolitical Tensions and Global Conflict: The overarching theme of rising international conflict and its impact on financial markets and the global economy.
• BRICS vs. The West: The emerging economic and political bloc of BRICS nations challenging the established Western-led order, particularly concerning the US dollar's hegemony.
• Energy Security and Control: The strategic importance of controlling global energy sources for maintaining geopolitical power.
• Regime Change Operations: Allegations of US-led attempts to influence or overthrow governments in strategically important nations like Venezuela.
• Middle East Conflict Dynamics: The complex interplay of Israeli, Iranian, and Palestinian interests, and the potential for wider regional escalation.
• Gold as a Monetary Asset: The resurgence of gold's role in the global financial system, particularly as an alternative to the US dollar for international trade and finance.
• Copper Market Fundamentals: The intricate balance of supply and demand, macroeconomic influences, and technological shifts impacting the copper market.
• Fragile Global Financial System: The underlying vulnerability of the current global financial system, characterized by high debt levels.

Summary of Discussion with Simon Hunt

This episode of Commodity Culture features an in-depth discussion with Simon Hunt, founder of Simon Hunt Strategic Services, focusing on the intersection of geopolitics, economic activity, and commodity markets, with a particular emphasis on China and copper.

1. Global Geopolitics and Financial Markets: A Fragile Landscape

Simon Hunt provides a broad overview, highlighting a fragile global financial system and the growing risk of Trump attempting to derail the BRICS group. The rationale behind this potential action is the perceived threat BRICS poses to America's dollar and political hegemony. Hunt frames current global events, from the Middle East to Europe and potential regime change in Venezuela, as part of a larger "global war" between the existing 80-year-old world order and the desire for change from a significant portion of the global population. This is all occurring against a backdrop of a debt-ridden global financial system.

2. BRICS, Energy, and Geopolitical Alignments

Russia-China Natural Gas Deal and its Implications

A significant point of discussion is the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Russia and China for increased natural gas deliveries, particularly through the planned Power of Siberia 2 pipeline. Hunt clarifies that this is an official contract, beyond the planning stage. The implications are substantial, as this energy could have otherwise flowed to EU member states currently facing high energy costs due to sanctions on Russian energy.

Hunt argues that Washington's long-term plan is to control global energy sources to maintain its hegemonic status. This objective is linked to several geopolitical maneuvers:

• Venezuela: The relocation of 10 US warships, activation of an old Puerto Rico air base, and positioning of special forces around Venezuela suggest a serious attempt at regime change. This is particularly noteworthy given the recent strategic alliance signed between Venezuela and Russia.
• Iran: A renewed and more serious Israel-American attack on Iran is considered highly probable. Israel views Iran as an obstacle to its "greater Israel" objective and the "head of the snake" due to its support for groups like Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. From America's perspective, Iran is mistakenly seen as the "weak link in BRICS," and its dismemberment is perceived as a way to weaken the bloc.

Venezuela: A False Flag Operation for Oil Control

The recent incident involving the US striking two Venezuelan boats, claimed to be drug smuggling operations, is characterized by Hunt as a "complete false flag operation." He cites several points:

• Satellite imagery showing no packages on the boats.
• The vessels lacking sufficient fuel to reach the US.
• The boats heading in the wrong direction.

The true motive, according to Hunt, is to gain control of Venezuela's oil resources, which are the largest in the world.

Gaza and the "Peace Plan": Political Theater

The proposed "peace plan" in Gaza, followed by threats if Hamas does not accept it, is viewed as "political theater." Hunt suggests this is a tactic by Netanyahu to regain popularity and secure the full support of the Jewish population, while knowing Hamas would likely reject the deal. This rejection provides Netanyahu with a "carte blanche to continue to attack Gaza." The objective is seen as "by force taking over Gaza," with Hamas not being defeated and the population remaining supportive. The mention of Tony Blair's unpopularity in the Middle East further underscores the theatrical nature of the proposal.

The "Other Side" Argument on Gaza

Regarding the argument that the population of Gaza is "captured by extremist Muslim ideology" and that total destruction is the only way out, Hunt answers by pointing to Jared Kushner's vision of a "new great seaside resort" in Gaza. He also references comments from Israel's finance minister about transforming Gaza into a "plush, rich seaside resort," implying a plan for development that doesn't align with total destruction of the population.

3. Potential War with Iran and Regional Escalation

Hunt believes an imminent attack on Iran is likely within six months. He points to several indicators:

• A large, strange meeting of 800 generals and admirals called by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, which he views as a diversion from the real planning of a joint Israeli-American attack on Iran.
• Air tankers seen flying into the Middle East via England, a similar occurrence prior to a previous conflict with Iran.
• Iran's preparations for an attack, including receiving extensive military equipment from Russia and China.
• Replenishment of Israel's depleted missile reserves by deliveries from America and elsewhere.

Implications of an Iran War:

• Russia-Ukraine Link: America's preference for Russia to be bogged down in Ukraine is seen as a way to reduce the probability of Russia entering a war with America and Israel in Iran. This could lead to an escalation in Ukraine, potentially involving Europe through air power.
• NATO Troop Movements: Reports of 56,000 US troops in Lithuania and Romania being put on full alert, and Russian intelligence indicating the movement of UK and French troops into Odessa and Romania, suggest a significant escalation risk in Ukraine between NATO and Russia.
• Trump's Popularity: An attack on Iran is not expected to tank Trump's popularity. Instead, it is predicted to strengthen the support of the Jewish population, the "powers that be," the deep state, and the evangelical Christian community that supports Israel. This is also attributed to the influence of "powerful old money, the elite neocons."
• Romania and EU Politics: The situation in Romania, with the ousting of Georgescu and the election of a pro-EU candidate, is seen as potentially enabling actions like troop deployments, especially given Georgescu's questioning of NATO and the EU. Hunt is less sure about new boots on the ground but notes existing troop presence and past incidents involving NATO officers.

Putin's Patience and Red Lines

Hunt suggests Putin has been deliberately patient to avoid a large-scale war but faces pressure from less patient individuals. The risk is that Putin could lose patience and retaliate if he sees firm evidence of an attack on Russia being planned by NATO countries. This retaliation might not be a direct military attack but could be a cyber attack, which can cause equivalent damage without being deemed the start of a war against NATO.

4. Gold Market: A Long-Term Bull Run and Shifting Monetary System

The gold market has seen a significant run, breaking to new all-time highs. Hunt believes we are in the early stages of a long-term bull market. He projects a 50% fall in the DXY (Dollar Index) by 2028, which could lead to gold reaching around $8,000 relative to the dollar.

A more significant development is the role of China and BRICS in reintroducing gold into the monetary system:

• Since 2010, Russia and China have traded without the US dollar.
• The Shanghai Gold Exchange plans to build gold vaults in BRICS member countries, with vaults already opened in Hong Kong and one completed or nearing completion in Saudi Arabia.
• Saudi Arabia can convert its trade surplus with China into gold held in the Shanghai Gold Exchange in Saudi Arabia, facilitating trade between BRICS countries not through the dollar, but through gold.
• China plans to use gold as a financing instrument, not just a secure asset, for trade finance and repo markets. This move is opposed by the BIS but is now feasible due to China's assets and influence.

This contrasts with America's approach of stablecoins and Bitcoin backed by US Treasury notes, which Hunt describes as making a debt instrument "look something lovely." He argues that most of the world will prefer something stable like gold over imaginary assets like Bitcoin or stablecoins, leading to greater support for the BRICS alternative outside of America and its allies.

5. Copper Market: Fundamentals vs. Speculation and Technological Shifts

The copper market has seen price increases, with bulls pointing to future demand from EVs, renewables, and data centers. However, Hunt presents a more nuanced view:

Current Fundamentals and Price Discrepancy

• Using official data (excluding China's inflated figures), Hunt estimates a global surplus of 700,000 tons in the first six months of the year.
• For the second half, he anticipates a deficit of around 500,000 tons, leading to a total surplus of approximately 200,000 tons for the year.
• This surplus contradicts current prices between $9,000 and $10,000 per ton, raising the question of whether fundamentals will align with prices or vice versa.

Macroeconomic Outlook and Copper Price Forecasts

• Hunt predicts recessions in most of the world, particularly Europe and America, until early next year.
• He believes the copper market is currently overbought.
• Scenario 1 (Without major war): Copper prices could fall to around $7,000, followed by an inflation-driven bull market reaching $14,000 by the second half of 2027, preceding a "mega crash."
• Scenario 2 (With war): A war scenario would lead to a global recession, unwinding leverage in all markets. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz (through which 20% of world oil passes) by Iran if attacked would exacerbate this. In this scenario, the top in copper prices might be seen now, or after a correction, a final move to $14,000 by late 2027, followed by a crash.

Technological Substitutions for Copper

Hunt highlights that technology can also substitute copper:

• EVs: Increasing use of aluminum in wiring and a shift to 48-volt systems will lead to thinner wiring and contacts, reducing copper content.
• Data Centers: Fiber optics are preferred over copper for bandwidth and speed, especially within racks.

Cost of Money and Data Center Bubble

The advocates of data centers are investing heavily, but Hunt anticipates a significant rise in the cost of money. He forecasts 10-year Treasury yields rising from around 4.5% to at least 8% by 2027. This increased cost of borrowing poses a significant risk to large-scale data center investments, suggesting a potential "bubble in data centers."

6. Simon Hunt Strategic Services and The Three Musketeers Copper Podcast

Simon Hunt discusses his consultancy, Simon Hunt Strategic Services, which focuses on the macro, geopolitical, and China aspects to provide sensible forecasts for the global economy and the copper market. He has extensive experience in China, having first visited in 1993. His firm produces regular reports, often averaging two to three per week.

He also co-hosts The Three Musketeers Copper Podcast with two other copper industry experts. The podcast delves into various aspects of the copper industry, with the first episode focusing on US copper tariffs and the next on the supply side, including the implications of the Grasberg accident. Details can be found on the website worldcopperindustry.com.

Conclusion

The discussion paints a picture of a world teetering on the brink of significant geopolitical and economic shifts. The potential for new conflicts, particularly in the Middle East, is high and could have far-reaching consequences. Simultaneously, the global financial system is undergoing a fundamental rebalancing, with BRICS nations challenging dollar hegemony and reintroducing gold as a key monetary asset. The copper market, while facing short-term headwinds from potential recessions and technological shifts, remains a critical commodity whose future price trajectory will be heavily influenced by these macro-level geopolitical and economic forces.