What do tech pioneers think about the AI revolution? - BBC World Service

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Key Concepts:

  • Artificial Intelligence (AI)
  • Machine Learning
  • Reinforcement Learning
  • Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)
  • Emotionally Intelligent Robots
  • Early Cancer Detection
  • Antibiotic Discovery
  • Regulation of AI
  • Social-Emotional AI

1. Introduction and Panel Overview:

  • Caroline Steel hosts "The Engineers" at Imperial College London, focusing on the AI revolution.
  • Panelists:
    • Paolo Pirjanian (Embodied): Builds emotionally intelligent robots for child development.
    • David Silver (Google DeepMind): Led the team that defeated the world's best Go player and is working on AGI.
    • Regina Barzilay (MIT): Pioneered AI for early breast cancer detection and antibiotic discovery.
  • The program highlights AI's impact, from strategy games to medicine.

2. Regina Barzilay's Shift to Oncology:

  • Barzilay, a natural language processing and AI expert, was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2014.
  • She observed a lack of AI in cancer treatment (diagnostics, treatment, post-treatment).
  • Motivated by her experience and the suffering of other patients, she sought to apply AI to healthcare.
  • She collaborated with Dr. Connie Lehman at Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) to focus on early cancer detection.
  • Example: Barzilay's personal experience with breast cancer treatment motivated her to apply AI to healthcare.

3. David Silver and Reinforcement Learning:

  • Silver's initial disappointment with AI in computer games led him to reinforcement learning.
  • Reinforcement learning: A system learns from experience through trial and error, similar to how humans and animals learn.
  • Analogy: Learning not to touch fire due to the negative consequence of pain.
  • Machines are rewarded with numerical values (positive for good actions, negative for bad actions).
  • The "reward" signal drives the learning process.

4. Paolo Pirjanian and Emotionally Intelligent Robots:

  • Pirjanian's experiences of alienation in foreign countries inspired him to create a robot companion.
  • He noted the growing prevalence of autism (1 in 30 children) and the need for social skills training.
  • Embodied's robots are designed to understand human emotions and build relationships with children.
  • The robots help children practice social skills like eye contact, turn-taking, and joint attention.
  • Example: Embodied's robots are designed to help children with autism spectrum disorder develop social skills.

5. AI's Capabilities in Cancer Understanding (Regina Barzilay):

  • AI can handle uncertainty in cancer diagnosis and treatment, which humans struggle with.
  • AI can analyze vast amounts of data to improve predictions and reduce errors.
  • Example: AI detected early-stage cancer in Barzilay's mammograms two years before it was visible to radiologists.
  • AI can remove the "guessing" element from diagnosis and treatment decisions.

6. AI and the Game of Go (David Silver):

  • Go is more challenging for computers than chess due to its complexity and reliance on intuition.
  • Human Go players rely on intuition and creativity, which are difficult to replicate in machines.
  • Chess can be solved with tactical look-ahead, but Go requires imagining the game's progression hundreds of moves in advance.
  • AlphaGo required major breakthroughs to achieve human-level intuition.

7. Emotional Bonds with Robots (Paolo Pirjanian):

  • Robots are not meant to replace human contact but to serve as "training wheels" for social skills.
  • Humans are wired to form bonds, even with inanimate objects.
  • Robots with eyes, eye contact, smiles, and emotional expression can quickly form bonds with children.
  • Children may open up to robots more easily than to therapists or parents.

8. AI for Antibiotic Discovery (Regina Barzilay):

  • Pharmaceutical companies are less active in antibiotic development due to economic factors.
  • AI can help discover new molecules that are effective against drug-resistant bacteria and non-toxic to humans.
  • MIT's AI model screened thousands of molecules and predicted their effectiveness.
  • The AI discovered a molecule that kills bacteria using a different mechanism of action, making it effective against multiple species.
  • Process: AI analyzes molecular structures to predict their antibacterial effects.

9. Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) (David Silver):

  • AGI aims to create AI systems that can approach any number of problems with intelligence, similar to humans.
  • AGI is a spectrum and requires further breakthroughs to reach human-level intelligence.
  • AGI systems should be able to learn diverse skills and specialize in different areas.

10. Challenges in AI Adoption in Medicine (Regina Barzilay):

  • Technology is mature, but translation into patient care is lacking.
  • Regulations in Europe, the UK, and the US are constantly changing.
  • Lack of clear billing practices for AI use in medicine.
  • Example: Doctors in the US may lose money by using AI because it reduces the time spent with patients.

11. Future of Social-Emotional AI (Paolo Pirjanian):

  • Social-emotional AI can help humanity become its best.
  • Early intervention with children on the autism spectrum can improve their integration into society.
  • AI companions can address social isolation and loneliness in aging populations.
  • Robots can provide assistive care, including cooking and walking, to promote independent living with dignity.
  • Assistive care robots are expected within the next decade.

12. AI and Creative Tools (David Silver):

  • AI will likely provide powerful tools to human authors rather than taking over human culture.
  • Example: Lyria, a music authoring system, speeds up the songwriting process.
  • AI and humans can work together to create better novels and other forms of media.

13. Regulation of AI (Panel Discussion):

  • Simon asks about the British government's approach to AI regulation.
  • David Silver: Regulation is important but should be tailored to different areas (e.g., medicine vs. chatbots).
  • Regina Barzilay: Concerns about hindering progress in treating diseases due to slow regulation.
  • Paolo Pirjanian: Regulation could create a strategic disadvantage if adversaries don't follow the same rules; international agreement is needed.

14. AI and Sports Performance (David Silver):

  • AI is being used to improve sports performance.
  • Example: Google DeepMind is collaborating with Liverpool Football Club to improve their tactics.

15. AI and Human Learning (Panel Discussion):

  • A young audience member asks if AI will hinder human learning.
  • David Silver: AGI could be a personal friend, assistant, and teacher to enhance learning.
  • Regina Barzilay: AI can remove pressure from tasks like writing, allowing focus on ideas.
  • Paolo Pirjanian: AI can make individuals more prolific by automating tasks like coding.

16. Conclusion:

  • The panelists express hope for the future of AI.
  • Caroline Steel thanks the panelists and audience.

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