Wednesday Market Close October 22 2025
By Heresy Financial
Here's a comprehensive summary of the YouTube video transcript:
Key Concepts
- Market Closing Live Stream: A live broadcast to discuss market performance at the end of the trading day and answer audience questions.
- Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist Perspective: The view that both the left and right political spectrums favor big government in areas they care about, leading to criticism of these ideologies from both sides.
- Taxi Driver Test/Dentist Test: An indicator of market tops when an asset becomes mainstream and widely discussed by the general public.
- Gold as a Savings Account: The concept of holding gold as a long-term store of value to preserve purchasing power, distinct from trading gold.
- Beyond Meat (BYND): A company discussed for its significant stock price volatility and the speaker's personal aversion to its business model.
- Fed Funds Rate: The target rate banks pay each other for overnight borrowing, managed by the Federal Reserve.
- Inflation Rate: The rate at which prices for goods and services are rising.
- 10-Year Bond Yield Rate: The interest rate on U.S. Treasury bonds with a 10-year maturity, influenced by various economic factors.
- Debt Monetization: The process by which a government finances its debt by printing money, potentially leading to inflation.
- Gold vs. Bitcoin: A comparison of gold's historical role as money and store of value versus Bitcoin's emerging status.
- Peter Schiff: A prominent figure in the gold community whose views on Bitcoin are discussed.
- Interest Rates as Signals: The idea that interest rates convey information about the scarcity or abundance of money and savings.
- Concentration vs. Diversification: Strategies for wealth building, with concentration being more effective for wealth creation when controllable, and diversification for wealth protection.
- MicroStrategy (MSTR): An example of a mispriced asset opportunity due to its significant Bitcoin holdings.
- Asymmetric Returns: Investment strategies that aim for a high potential upside with a limited downside risk.
- Macroeconomics: The study of the economy as a whole, including inflation, interest rates, and GDP.
- Credit Cycle: The expansion and contraction of credit, which drives economic cycles.
- Not QE (Quantitative Easing): Federal Reserve actions to inject liquidity into the financial system.
Market Closing and Live Stream Introduction
The speaker is conducting a live stream at the end of the market day to discuss current market conditions and answer audience questions about markets, the economy, and related topics. The speaker notes they are in a different location than their usual setup, using their computer for the live stream rather than their dedicated recording studio.
Audience Questions and Speaker Responses
Limiting Spaces on Calls/Webinars
The speaker clarifies that when they limit spaces on calls or webinars, it's to ensure a manageable Q&A session and to accommodate limited capacity for onboarding new clients into their programs. The goal is to provide a better experience for all participants.
Personal Appearance
The speaker addresses comments about their appearance, attributing a slightly shorter beard to an accidental trim with a new trimmer and a different camera angle and lighting setup.
Political Commentary
The speaker touches on a recent video discussing government, stating it's performing poorly. They express the view that libertarians and anarcho-capitalists are disliked by both the left and right because both sides favor big government in their preferred areas. They describe this as "two sides of the same coin."
Gold Investment Strategy
Main Topic: The speaker discusses the "taxi driver test" or "dentist test" as an indicator of an asset becoming mainstream and potentially topping out.
Key Points:
- The speaker's in-laws serve as their personal indicator.
- In August 2020, when gold was at a peak after a 50% run, the in-laws texted to start buying gold, despite the speaker having advised them to buy for 1.5-2 years prior.
- The in-laws stopped buying in October 2022 when gold had fallen from around $2,000 to $1,600 per ounce.
- They sold their gold in March 2024 (when gold was around $2,000) to fund a real estate purchase, coincidentally at the start of a breakout.
- They texted again in October 2024 to start buying gold, which the speaker views as a strong indicator of a potential top.
Speaker's Perspective:
- While sentiment can be used for trading, the speaker views gold as a "savings account" for preserving purchasing power (suggesting around 20% of a portfolio).
- They do not trade their long-term gold holdings but engage in separate trading activities around gold ETFs (GLD) and gold miners.
Beyond Meat (BYND) Stock Analysis
Main Topic: Discussion of Beyond Meat's stock performance and the speaker's investment philosophy.
Key Points:
- BYND has experienced extreme volatility, bottoming at around $0.50 and reaching highs of $7.68, with significant drops within a single day.
- The speaker personally despises the company's messaging, product, and goals, considering it "anti-nature, anti-human."
- They find the company's mission to create protein from plants, chemicals, and energy to be inefficient compared to animals' natural conversion process.
Speaker's Perspective:
- The speaker does not invest in companies they despise, regardless of potential fundamentals.
- They believe there is limited long-term growth potential for companies like Beyond Meat.
Diet and Health
The speaker clarifies they are no longer strictly carnivore but follow a more paleo/hunter-gatherer diet. They switched due to feeling consistently cold without carbs and a lack of energy for weightlifting. They now incorporate fruits, vegetables, rice, and potatoes.
Real Estate Market Dynamics
Main Topic: The impact of falling 10-year rates and lower mortgage rates on real estate prices.
Key Points:
- Lower mortgage rates will "absolutely induce supply into the market" as people who bought before 2023 can now afford to sell and move.
- However, these sellers are also buyers, creating demand.
- The primary driver of real estate prices is the ratio of housing units to the population needing housing.
- Nationwide, there is a housing shortage, which would require a significant population decrease to alleviate.
Federal Reserve, Inflation, and Bond Yields
Main Topic: The relationship between the Fed Funds Rate, inflation, and the 10-year bond yield.
Key Points:
- These rates are connected but not rigidly tied.
- Fed Funds Rate: The overnight rate banks pay each other for cash and collateral, managed by the Fed through reserve balances. It has more influence on short-term rates (like T-bills) than long-term rates.
- Influence on Other Yields: When the Fed Funds Rate is high and risk-free, banks favor it. If it's near zero, banks seek higher yields elsewhere, potentially pushing money into longer-term government bonds or mortgages, thus lowering those yields.
- Long-Term Outlook: The speaker anticipates debt monetization to finance government spending will lead to lower rates for the government but increased money supply, bidding up prices of goods, services, and assets, thus increasing "free market" interest rates (credit cards, auto loans, mortgages). They believe any period of lower interest rates will be brief.
Gold vs. Bitcoin Comparison
Main Topic: The speaker's view on comparing gold and Bitcoin.
Key Points:
- Gold has been money for thousands of years and is still a monetary store of value for institutions and central banks.
- Bitcoin is primarily held by individuals, with institutional adoption growing but often through ETFs for ease of tracking.
- The market caps are vastly different.
- While Bitcoin may displace gold as a store of value and become universal money, it is not there yet.
Speaker's Perspective:
- The speaker dislikes comparing gold and Bitcoin directly.
- They recommend owning both, with Bitcoin positions small enough to mitigate the risk of it going to zero.
Tesla (TSLA)
The speaker is long Tesla for the long term but believes it is currently "incredibly overvalued." They did not buy at the current price but are bullish on its long-term potential if the company executes its plans.
Peter Schiff's Opinion on Bitcoin
Main Topic: The speaker's perspective on Peter Schiff's criticisms of Bitcoin.
Key Points:
- The speaker respects Schiff's economic and political articulation but believes he has a "blind spot" to Bitcoin.
- Many arguments against Bitcoin (e.g., volatility) are flawed or can also be applied to gold.
- Volatility is a spectrum, and larger market caps and adoption decrease it.
- Schiff acknowledges that if debt or salaries were denominated in Bitcoin, it would change his view, which the speaker agrees with.
Interest Rates and Investment
Main Topic: The role of a 2% inflation target and interest rates in encouraging investment.
Key Points:
- A 2% inflation target does encourage investment.
- However, interest rates are signals of money scarcity. Artificially controlled rates provide false signals.
- Low rates encourage productive use of capital when money is abundant, but artificial manipulation can drain savings pools and create "zombie companies."
- This can lead to wasted capital, as seen with the proliferation of scooter companies during zero-interest-rate policies.
Concentration vs. Diversification
Main Topic: The effectiveness of concentration and diversification in wealth building.
Key Points:
- Concentration: More effective for building wealth when the asset is controllable (e.g., a business, real estate one actively manages).
- Diversification: Protects wealth, especially when assets are uncontrollable.
- The speaker advises concentrating wealth into controllable assets first, then diversifying once wealth is built.
- They state that individual stocks (Amazon, Bitcoin, Tesla, Google) are uncontrollable and thus diversification is recommended for those assets.
Identifying Investment Opportunities
Main Topic: How to spot potential investment opportunities.
Key Points:
- The speaker advises against trying to spot opportunities like BYND's short-term surge, as such moves are often known to insiders first.
- Their preferred method is looking for "mispricings in the market."
- Example: MicroStrategy (MSTR): In February 2024, MSTR was trading at book value despite holding significant Bitcoin. This presented a low-risk opportunity because even if the company shut down, shareholders would get their money back, with the added potential upside of Bitcoin's appreciation and short interest.
- Finding these opportunities requires extensive research and sifting through information.
- The focus should be on asymmetric returns, where the worst-case scenario is very limited, and the best-case scenario is significant.
Current Market Outlook
Main Topic: The speaker's short-term market outlook.
Key Points:
- Despite current overvaluation concerns, the speaker believes the market has "a lot of upside room ahead of it" in the short term (next couple of months).
- This is based on the current high level of fear and bearish sentiment in the market, suggesting a contrarian bullish play.
- They maintain short-term hedges as a precaution against a market downturn.
Learning Macroeconomics
Main Topic: Recommendations for learning macroeconomics.
Key Points:
- Read Books: The speaker emphasizes reading books from respected authors.
- Authors Mentioned: Peter Schiff, Jim Rickards, Ray Dalio (specifically "Principles of Economic Crisis"), and Saifedean Ammous.
- Saifedean Ammous: Highly recommended for his clear explanations of how the economy works, even for those not interested in Bitcoin. His books include "The Fiat Standard," "The Bitcoin Standard," and "Fiat Food." He has a new book, "The Gold Standard," coming out.
- Process: Start with one book, which leads to further reading and learning.
Recession Expectations
Main Topic: Why recessions are not expected when widely anticipated and why recent recession predictions haven't materialized.
Key Points:
- Recessions and crashes typically happen when almost nobody expects them.
- Recessions are driven by credit cycles, not just business cycles. An expansion of credit leads to price increases, followed by a contraction of the money supply and economy.
- 2019: The economy was heading for a contraction, evidenced by the Fed's intervention in the repo market ("Not QE").
- 2020: The pandemic provided an excuse for massive money printing, preventing a contraction and leading to an expansion.
- 2022: A "light recession" occurred due to the contraction following the 2020-2021 expansion, characterized by contracting GDP and falling money supply.
- Current Situation: The speaker believes the current economic setup is not conducive to a major recession, as there hasn't been a significant expansion yet, and the economy is moving into an easing phase with potential for further easing. Major recessions often follow periods of euphoria and widespread profitability.
Conclusion and Future Live Streams
The speaker concludes the market close live stream and asks the audience if they would like him to continue doing similar live streams in the future, focusing on market closing times and covering topics like stocks, gold, Bitcoin, and the economy. He will continue if there is sufficient interest.
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