WATCH: Sen. Kelly holds a news conference on Trump and Hegseth's 'efforts to intimidate him'
By PBS NewsHour
Key Concepts
- Bullying and Intimidation as a Political Tactic: The central theme is Donald Trump's alleged consistent use of bullying and intimidation to silence opponents and control narratives.
- Refusal of Illegal Orders: The video discusses the importance of service members refusing illegal orders, a message conveyed in a video released by Senator Sloin and others.
- Political Violence: The transcript highlights instances of political violence and the potential for presidential rhetoric to incite it.
- Abuse of Power: The speaker argues that Trump abuses presidential power to silence critics and intimidate individuals and institutions.
- Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth: The transcript heavily criticizes Pete Hegseth's qualifications and actions as Secretary of Defense, particularly his alleged order for a second strike and his investigation into the speaker.
- Rule of Law vs. Personal Loyalty: A key argument is that Trump and his allies prioritize personal loyalty over the rule of law and constitutional principles.
- Freedom of Speech and Democracy: The speaker asserts that Trump's actions damage American freedom of speech and the balance of powers essential for democracy.
- Congressional Oversight: The importance of congressional committees, like the Armed Services Committee, in investigating executive actions and holding officials accountable is emphasized.
- Military Ethics and International Law: The discussion touches upon the law of the sea, Geneva Conventions, and the ethical considerations of military actions, particularly concerning potential war crimes.
Summary
Donald Trump's Strategy of Bullying and Intimidation
The speaker asserts that Donald Trump's career across business, reality TV, and politics has been characterized by a singular strategy: bullying opponents into silence. This tactic is described as having worked for him in the past, but the speaker contends it will not work now. Trump is accused of attempting to silence the speaker by threatening to kill him and by deploying his Secretary of Defense against him.
The "Refuse Illegal Orders" Video and Trump's Reaction
A week and a half prior to this statement, Senator Sloin and others, including military and intelligence veterans, released a video with a straightforward message to service members: they must refuse illegal orders. The speaker emphasizes that this is a basic legal principle. In contrast to how any other president would have responded (likely with agreement), Donald Trump's reaction was to suggest that two US senators and four members of the House of Representatives should be arrested, hanged, and executed for speaking the truth.
The Cost of Political Violence
The speaker draws a personal connection to political violence, noting that his wife, Gabby, was shot in the head and nearly died while speaking with constituents. He points out that Trump himself has been a target of political violence. The transcript cites other examples of political violence, including the murder of the Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives and her husband, and the firebombing of the Pennsylvania Governor's house. The assassination of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University is also mentioned. While other presidents would have sought to heal the nation in the face of such events, Trump is accused of using every opportunity to divide the country, which the speaker deems dangerous.
Abuse of Power and Unqualified Appointees
The speaker argues that the President's words carry significant weight, and Trump uses this to silence people. If threats fail, he allegedly abuses his power to intimidate. With the consent of Senate Republicans, Trump has surrounded himself with individuals like Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, who are described as unquestioningly loyal. The speaker claims Trump and Hegseth prioritize publicity over the rule of law. The speaker discovered via a tweet that Hegseth was ordering an investigation into him. Hegseth is characterized as historically unqualified for his position and is reported to have ordered a second strike to kill shipwrecked survivors in the Caribbean. The speaker believes Hegseth should be answering questions publicly and under oath.
A Message to Silencing Dissent
This situation is presented as a dangerous moment for the US when the President and his loyalists use every lever of power to silence senators. However, the speaker emphasizes that this is not just about him or the other individuals in the video; it's a message intended for retired service members, government employees, military personnel, elected officials, and all Americans who might consider speaking out: "you better keep your mouth shut or else."
Trump's Focus on Intimidation
The speaker contends that Trump's second term has been singularly focused on intimidating people and targeting political opponents, rather than addressing costs or creating jobs. Examples include:
- Companies: Demanding payments for projects (e.g., "write a check to build my ballroom") to approve mergers.
- Universities: Threatening to pull research funding if presidents are not fired.
- Late-night hosts: Threatening to remove them from the air and revoke broadcast licenses for unfavorable jokes.
- Republicans in Congress: Demanding party line adherence to prevent re-election.
Damage to Freedom of Speech and Democracy
This pattern of behavior comes at a cost, damaging not only companies, colleges, and comedians but also every American's freedom of speech and the balance of powers fundamental to democracy. When Republicans in Congress are too afraid to disagree with the president, his "bad ideas go unchallenged." Examples include reckless tariffs that have increased the cost of groceries and school supplies, and Republicans being too afraid to vote to undo them. Similarly, Republicans who want to address rising healthcare costs are stymied because Trump opposes action.
Ignorance of the Constitution and Rule of Law
The speaker states that the "occupant of the Oval Office is ignorant to the Constitution and has no regard for the rule of law." He is accused of trying to silence the speaker, proposing court-martial, and threatening his life for fighting back when democracy demands it. The speaker declares that Trump has crossed the line and that this time, it will not work. He will not be intimidated or silenced, having given too much in service to the country.
Personal Service vs. Trump's Past
The speaker contrasts his own service with Trump's past:
- 1991: Speaker was in Iraq and Kuwait while Trump was driving the Taj Mahal casino into bankruptcy.
- 2001: Speaker carried flags honoring 9/11 victims into space while Trump claimed ownership of the tallest skyscraper in Manhattan after the Twin Towers collapse.
- 2003: Speaker recovered bodies of fallen astronauts after the Space Shuttle Columbia explosion, while Trump was writing birthday greetings to Jeffrey Epstein.
- 2011: Speaker sat by his wife's hospital bed as she recovered from a gunshot wound, while Trump hosted a reality show and peddled conspiracy theories about President Obama.
The Venezuela Strike and Investigation
During the Q&A, the speaker addresses reports about a potential second strike in Venezuela. He states that there needs to be an investigation and that members of the DOD and military should be brought before the Armed Services committees. He expresses hope that the reports are not accurate, revering members of the US Navy. However, he notes that military personnel need to understand the law of the sea and Geneva Conventions, and expresses concern that if survivors were clinging to a damaged vessel, it could be "over a line." He reiterates the need for an investigation by the Inspector General of DOD.
Notification of Court-Martial via Tweet
The speaker finds it "ludicrous" that he was notified of a potential court-martial through a tweet from the Secretary of Defense, calling it the only notification received to date. He believes this demonstrates Hegseth's lack of care for law, process, or accountability, prioritizing views on his Twitter account. He questions if there has ever been a less qualified or less professional Secretary of Defense.
Threats and First Amendment Rights
Regarding threats on his life and his wife's security, the speaker acknowledges that he and Gabby are no strangers to political violence and receive many threats, which have increased since Trump's statements. He takes these threats seriously but states that Trump's attempts to silence him will not work. He asserts his First Amendment rights as a US Senator and his commitment to his job on the Armed Services and Intelligence Committees.
Congressional Oversight and Testimony
The speaker believes that Admiral Bradley and other officials should appear before the Armed Services Committee to testify regarding the Venezuela strike. He expresses less confidence that the administration will adhere to norms but insists on getting to the bottom of what happened. He questions the legality of striking inside Venezuelan territory and the lack of a clear goal communicated to the American people by the President.
Legal Action and the Nature of the Conflict
When asked about legal action for the court-martial or investigations, the speaker states he has not considered suing Donald Trump for his statements, though he believes they are dangerous and a violation of constitutional rights. He reiterates that the situation is not about him or the other five members in the video, but about a president who wants to silence dissent and does not understand the Constitution or the rule of law. He fears for who Trump will go after next.
FBI Involvement and Motivation
The speaker suggests that the FBI's involvement in the inquiry into him and other lawmakers is a question for the FBI itself. He questions whether the FBI initiated the inquiry or if it was directed by the President.
The Secretary of Defense's Rhetoric and Actions
The speaker criticizes Hegseth's public persona, describing him as running around on stage talking about "lethality and warrior ethos and killing people." He contrasts this with the need for messages about mission, accountability, the rule of law, and equipping service members. He finds Hegseth's behavior "ridiculous" and "embarrassing," especially considering his role in the National Command Authority for nuclear weapons. He believes Hegseth should have been fired long ago.
Legislative Options and Bipartisan Support
The speaker suggests that the NDAA or defense appropriations bill could be avenues to address concerns about the Defense Department's actions, but notes the challenge of achieving bipartisan support due to Republican fear of the President.
The Necessity of the "Refuse Illegal Orders" Video
Despite the law already stating that service members are not required to obey illegal orders, the speaker believes the video was necessary as a reminder and to show support for service members. He states that not all service members hear these reminders frequently.
Trump's Unexpected and Extreme Response
The speaker was surprised by Trump's extreme response to the video, expecting him to simply agree that military members shouldn't follow illegal orders. He recounts how Senator Slatkin was informed of the President calling for their execution.
Impeachable Offense and Healthcare
Regarding whether the Secretary of Defense's alleged actions could be an impeachable offense, the speaker defers to legal experts, stating he is not an attorney and is still gathering facts. On healthcare, he expresses a desire for a bipartisan solution to address spiking premiums, noting that millions of constituents cannot afford healthcare and are one accident away from bankruptcy. He criticizes the President for not engaging in efforts to fix this issue.
Support from Republican Colleagues
The speaker confirms receiving messages of support, both public and private, from Republican colleagues, though he will not disclose private conversations. He notes that the President's actions send a chilling message across the nation.
Confidence in Investigations and the Secretary of Defense
The speaker expresses "tremendous confidence" in the Chairman and Ranking Member of the Armed Services Committee to conduct a thorough job. However, he has "about zero confidence" in the Secretary of Defense due to his actions, including firing JAG officers, inspectors general, and leadership based on race or gender.
Testimony and Legislative Leverage
The speaker is discussing with Senator Schatz the approach to requiring Pete Hegseth's testimony before passing the defense authorization bill. He acknowledges the importance of the defense bill but emphasizes the need for thoughtful handling of the process.
Testimony and Venezuela Strikes
The speaker plans to discuss with the chairman and ranking member who should testify and whether hearings should be public or classified. He generally prefers public hearings. He questions the justification for Donald Trump conducting kinetic strikes into Venezuela, the goal, and why it hasn't been communicated to the American people. He criticizes the idea of regime change as a US policy, citing historical failures and the potential for US service member deaths without intended outcomes. He stresses that the President must make a case to the American people before putting troops in harm's way.
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