'This was a MISTAKE': Kudlow calls out Fed rate cut uncertainty as Chair decision looms

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Key Concepts

  • Federal Reserve Policy: Discussions around the Federal Reserve's (Fed) interest rate decisions, particularly for December, and the differing views within the Fed.
  • Inflation and Economic Growth: The tension between controlling inflation and fostering economic growth, and how the Fed perceives these.
  • Interest Rate Cuts: The recent cut in interest rates below 4% and the debate on future cuts.
  • Economic Data: The importance of various economic indicators (CPI, Atlanta Fed projections, ADP, layoffs) in informing Fed decisions.
  • Supply-Side Economics: The principles of supply-side economics, including tax cuts, deregulation, and sound money, and their potential impact on the economy.
  • Federal Reserve Chair Nomination: A poll on potential candidates for the next Fed Chair, with a focus on their economic philosophies.
  • Deregulation: The role of deregulation in stimulating economic growth, drawing parallels to past administrations.
  • Artificial Intelligence (AI) and Layoffs: The impact of AI on job displacement and the uncertainty surrounding the labor market.
  • Balance Sheet Reduction: The debate on the pace and necessity of reducing the Fed's balance sheet.

Federal Reserve Policy and December Meeting

The transcript highlights "strongly different views" within the Federal Reserve regarding future policy actions, specifically for the December meeting. A further reduction in the policy rate is "not a foregone conclusion, far from it." The policy is described as "not an preset course." Jerome Powell's recent statements are seen as potentially tempering investor hopes. The Fed did cut interest rates to below 4% for the first time since 2022.

Economic Data and Inflation Outlook

Larry expresses disagreement with assuming rate cuts in September or November due to a "dearth of information." He cites the Atlanta Fed's projection of 3.9% GDP growth in the third quarter ending in September. He suggests the Fed might have a "phobia about growth." However, he acknowledges that the latest CPI was below expectations, with the 3-month change for both top-line and core inflation at a 3.6% annual rate, which is closer to the Fed's 2% target. The decline in energy and shelter prices is noted as a factor that could lead to lower inflation by December, making another rate cut possible. Despite this, Larry states, "But right now I am not crazed."

Jerome Powell's Communication and Market Reactions

Jackie interprets Jerome Powell's recent statements as "flexing his power," signaling that he is "in charge" and potentially addressing both Donald Trump and the market. She believes Powell could have remained silent, gathered more data, and then made a decision in December, suggesting he "did not have to say what he said yesterday." Larry speculates that Powell's comments might have been "inadvertent," a response to a question that "popped out."

Potential Federal Reserve Chair Candidates and Economic Philosophies

A poll is being conducted on Twitter X and Instagram for the next Fed Chair. The leading candidate so far is Kevin Warsh, followed by Larry himself, then Kevin Hassett, with Scott Bessent potentially tied or close. Panelists Steve Forbes and John Carney, along with Larry, support supply-side economics. Forbes and Carney, along with Mike Powell, reportedly favored Scott Bessent. Kevin Warsh is described as "not a guy who's known to be a dove" and is seen as "very hawkish," prioritizing inflation control over the dual mandate. Larry characterizes Kevin Warsh as a supply-sider who supports tax cuts and a strong dollar.

Supply-Side Economics and Deregulation

The discussion shifts to the importance of deregulation, drawing a parallel to President Carter's deregulation efforts that preceded President Reagan's economic boom. The transcript argues that deregulation is "operating" and that a "one big beautiful bill" that is "pro-business and pro-growth and pro-jobs and pro-wages" is a good piece of legislation. Larry advocates for immediate cost expensing, depreciation, and low corporate tax rates, along with deregulation, to boost private payrolls and create new businesses. He believes this is why Trump's policies are appealing to the market. Kevin Warsh is said to believe in low tax rates, deregulation, and a sound dollar. He also advocates for a more aggressive reduction of the monetary base/balance sheet, which he believes has not "totally conquered inflation." The principle that "more investment in production will lower prices" is highlighted as a key tenet of supply-side economics.

Balance Sheet Reduction

Larry suggests that the Fed made a mistake by not running down the balance sheet more aggressively. He notes that the current balance sheet of $6.5 trillion looks "weak against 9 trillion" and that the balance sheet, previously called the monetary base, should be reduced.

Labor Market Uncertainty and AI Impact

Brian notes that the Fed is "very, very focused on jobs as the thing that could deteriorate fastest" and wants to avoid being behind that curve. Lydia expresses concern about not getting sufficient data on the labor market, relying on sources like ADP. She points to recent headlines about layoffs, including "AI driven layoffs," and the need to lead in AI development, but acknowledges the "expense" and the lack of a "crystal-clear picture" of the labor market. She states that economic data is "always in the rearview anyway." Examples of layoffs include 14,000 at Amazon, with UPS expected to cut 50,000 over time and Amazon's numbers potentially reaching 30,000. While AI might be a factor, corporate downsizing is also considered. Despite booming profits and stock markets, there are 160 million people working. Private payrolls were slowing before the strike, and another quarter-point rate cut is not expected to affect this trend.

Conclusion

The transcript reveals a divergence of opinions within the Federal Reserve regarding future interest rate policy, with a focus on the December meeting. Economic data, particularly inflation trends and labor market signals, are central to these discussions. There's a strong undercurrent advocating for supply-side economic principles, including deregulation and tax cuts, as drivers of growth and job creation. The potential impact of AI on the labor market introduces further uncertainty. The selection of a new Federal Reserve Chair with a clear economic philosophy is also a significant topic.

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