This Firm Has Half a Trillion Dollars in AUM. Its CEO Spoke to Us. | At Barron's

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Key Concepts

• Janus Henderson: A global asset management firm formed by the merger of Janus Capital Group and Henderson Group.
• Active Management vs. Passive Indexing: The core debate regarding investment strategies, with a focus on the resurgence of active management.
• ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds): Discussed in both passive and active forms, with Janus Henderson being a significant player in active ETFs.
• Alternative Investments: Expansion into private credit, asset-backed securities, and other non-traditional asset classes for both institutional and retail investors.
• Organic Growth: Janus Henderson's focus on growing assets under management through internal strategies and client-centric product development.
• Global Reach and Regulation: The complexities and advantages of operating as a global firm with diverse regulatory environments.
• Client-Centric Approach: The firm's emphasis on understanding and meeting the needs of end clients, particularly for retirement and savings.

Merger Rationale and Firm Identity

The merger of Janus and Henderson, which occurred nearly 10 years prior to the interview, was driven by strong industrial logic. Janus was primarily a US equities-focused, growth-oriented firm with a strong intermediary and retail client base. Henderson, on the other hand, had a more global presence, a significant fixed income component, and a stronger institutional client focus. Combining these strengths created a more diversified and robust asset management entity.

The enduring thread that ties the firm together, dating back to its founding in 1934, is a deep commitment to research and understanding companies to generate alpha and achieve beneficial financial outcomes for clients. This is encapsulated by the mantra: "knowing the companies we invest in better than the people who work at those companies." Janus Henderson operates as a truly global firm with 25 offices worldwide, with Denver and London serving as its two largest hubs.

CEO's Mandate and Firm's Foundation

Ali Debage became CEO in June 2022 with a mandate to focus on the firm's growth trajectory and better align its strong investment acumen with current and future client needs. He highlights that Janus Henderson possesses a fantastic foundation, characterized by:

• Strong Investment Acumen: The firm consistently beats benchmarks, with two-thirds of its strategies outperforming, placing it at the top of its peer group.
• Excellent Client Service: A constant focus on clients and their clients' needs.

The firm employs nearly 2,000 individuals dedicated to delivering "brighter futures" for clients. Janus Henderson distributes its products through direct-to-client (20% of AUM), intermediaries like private banks and RIAs (50% of AUM), and institutional investors such as sovereign wealth funds and pension plans (30% of AUM).

The Resurgence of Active Management

Debage challenges the notion that active management is in decline due to indexing and ETFs. He argues that the previous era where passive investing thrived was characterized by a zero cost of capital and a stable global environment. Today, with a significant cost of capital and geopolitical, demographic, and technological uncertainties (including AI), active management is not only relevant but essential.

He states, "active asset management is ripe for the times that are that are ahead of us today." Janus Henderson employs 350 people dedicated to active management, a core competency for 91 years.

Active ETFs and Vehicle Agnosticism

Janus Henderson is a leader in active ETFs, ranking as the second-largest active fixed income ETF provider globally and eighth in all active ETFs. The firm adopts a "vehicle agnostic" approach, meaning they aim to deliver their best investment strategies regardless of the product wrapper, whether it's ETFs, CITs (Collective Investment Trusts), SMAs (Separately Managed Accounts), or traditional mutual funds. The goal is to provide clients with the best strategies and service in the format they prefer.

Market Outlook and Opportunities

Regarding market frothiness, Debage believes it's easy to make such pronouncements, but significant opportunities exist across both equities and fixed income. He points to:

• Small and Mid-Cap Equities: Many of these companies have not experienced the same "frothiness" as larger caps.
• Biotechnology: Healthcare teams see substantial opportunities in biotech stocks that may have been unfairly impacted.
• Technology: Beyond the leading AI stocks, there are numerous companies supporting AI infrastructure ("picks and shovels").

He emphasizes that active asset management's value lies in digging deeper to find these differentiated opportunities and deliver better financial outcomes.

Expansion into Alternative Investments

Janus Henderson has expanded into alternative and private investments for retail investors, prioritizing safety and suitability. Debage stresses that introducing private products to retail channels requires careful consideration of the right vehicle, timeframe, client education, and advisor preparedness.

To address this, they built Privacore, an open-architecture platform that curates the best alternative products from various managers, ensuring they are delivered in the appropriate format with adequate education for the right client.

In addition to Privacore, Janus Henderson has acquired two alternative businesses:

1. Victory Park Capital (US): Specializes in asset-backed private credit, distinct from direct lending, and is seen as a well-constructed private credit realm with significant growth potential, particularly for institutional clients like insurers (e.g., CNO).
2. Non-US Direct Lending (Middle East focus): Addresses a substantial need for private credit among SMEs in the Middle East who struggle to secure funding from large sovereign wealth funds or banks due to size and regulatory constraints.

Assets Under Management and Organic Growth

Janus Henderson's assets under management (AUM) are approximately $457 billion, and the firm is experiencing organic inflows, making it one of the few traditional asset managers to do so. This growth is attributed to:

• Meeting Client Needs: Actively soliciting client feedback and developing new products.
• Successful Active ETFs: Five active ETFs now exceed $1 billion in AUM.
• Global Small Cap Product: Addressing the demand for global small-cap public equity as a response to private equity's capital return challenges.
• Biotechnology Hedge Funds: Experiencing strong growth due to the firm's expertise.
• Balanced Funds: The balanced fund is growing significantly outside the US, capitalizing on yield in fixed income and active equity picking.

Global Perspective and UK Market

As a British-American firm, Janus Henderson leverages its global perspective, rooted in its UK origins (1934) and US presence (1969). This allows for sophisticated conversations with global institutional clients. While the UK market is currently challenging with some uncertainty, Debage sees "green shoots" and remains a believer in its growth potential.

Stock Performance and Shareholder Value

Since Debage became CEO, Janus Henderson's stock has matched the S&P 500 and outperformed peers like T. Rowe Price, Invesco, and Franklin Templeton. Debage expresses strong belief in the company's future, driven by the team's performance, business growth, and client satisfaction.

From a shareholder perspective, the focus is on growing revenue and EBITDA, which is intrinsically linked to meeting client needs. The firm serves approximately 60 million people globally, directly or indirectly, for their retirement and savings, a responsibility that drives their culture and actions. The "ampersand" in their name signifies this commitment to working "together" with end clients.

Regulatory Environment and Trade Wars

The firm navigates complex and sometimes countervailing global regulations, leveraging its size and expertise to manage these challenges on behalf of clients. Debage believes the regulatory environment is moving in the right direction, with a general sense of easing after a period of significant clampdowns.

Trade wars do not directly impact Janus Henderson but influence investment decisions. As active managers, they analyze which regions will benefit or be detracted from by trade wars, considering supply chains and changing global allocations. The shift in global allocations away from a heavy US concentration benefits Janus Henderson due to its strong global equity, fixed income, and alternative offerings.

Personal Journey

Ali Debage, originally from Montreal, Canada, pursued higher education in the US at Harvard College and Harvard Law School. His career path included management consulting, analyst roles, portfolio management, and corporate strategy/CFO positions before joining Janus Henderson. He attributes his current role to fortunate mentorship and guidance throughout his career.