The real reason AI is fueling corporate layoffs

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Key Concepts

• Economic Melt-up: A period of strong market performance driven by positive fundamentals.
• S&P 500 Estimates: Projections for earnings growth of companies in the S&P 500 index.
• Pivot to Asia: A strategic shift in foreign policy and trade relations towards Asian countries.
• Rare Earths: Critical minerals essential for advanced technologies, with China being a major supplier.
• Transshipment: Goods passing through a country without being manufactured there, often used to circumvent trade restrictions.
• Moderate Tariff: A tariff rate that is not excessively high and aims to balance revenue generation with minimal impact on profits.
• Federal Reserve (The Fed): The central bank of the United States, responsible for monetary policy.
• Basis Point: A unit of measure equal to 1/100th of 1%. A quarter-point rate cut is 25 basis points.
• Artificial Intelligence (AI): Technology that enables machines to perform tasks typically requiring human intelligence.
• Labor Displacement: The reduction in the need for human workers due to automation or technological advancements.
• Productivity Revolution: A significant increase in economic output per unit of input, often driven by technological innovation.
• Break-Even Rate: The interest rate at which an investment neither makes a profit nor a loss. In this context, it refers to the rate that balances inflation and economic growth.
• Creative Disruption: A concept where new innovations and technologies displace older ones, leading to economic restructuring.

Economic Performance and Trade Dynamics

The discussion begins by noting a continued "melt-up" in the stock market, characterized by strong fundamentals. Gerri Willis highlights fresh data indicating double-digit earnings growth for S&P 500 companies, with specific figures of 10.9% year-over-year for the index, 23.5% for tech, and 21.1% for financials. This profit growth is identified as the primary driver of the stock market's ascent.

Liz Peek elaborates on the positive "vibe" surrounding trade, particularly the President's trip to Asia. She emphasizes the strategic importance of pivoting to Asia to bolster relationships and counter China's influence. Peek argues that if China fails to uphold its trade commitments, its importance to the U.S. will diminish. A key development mentioned is the U.S. firming up new sources for rare earth imports from Australia and Japan, mitigating reliance on China for these critical minerals. The ability of other countries to produce goods and the trend of American companies establishing production facilities in places like Vietnam due to lower costs are also noted as positive developments.

Larry Kudlow introduces the concept of a "moderate tariff," estimating it to be around 15% after adjustments. He views this as beneficial from a profit and stock market perspective, as it is not expected to significantly crimp corporate profits. The market's understanding of this is seen as a positive factor.

Trade Agreements and Geopolitical Strategy

Peek further explains that the trade agreements and understandings reached with countries like Japan, Malaysia, and Cambodia are promising because they represent a genuine pivot to Asia. This strategy aims to confront China by building stronger alliances in the region. The U.S. is actively seeking alternative sources for rare earth minerals, reducing its dependence on China. The importance of transshipment is acknowledged, but the focus is also on these countries producing their own products.

Kudlow reiterates that trade deals are tough but notes that the current approach has been "friendly." He highlights Asia's importance and the strategy of "surrounding China." The ability of smaller countries to produce goods is seen as a positive, provided transshipments are managed.

Mohamed El-Erian stresses the critical need to use the current period of de-escalation for two purposes: reducing U.S. vulnerabilities to China and reinforcing alliances to prevent China from circumventing its promises.

Federal Reserve and Monetary Policy

The conversation shifts to the Federal Reserve's upcoming meeting. It is widely expected that the Fed will implement a quarter-point (25 basis point) interest rate cut, rather than a 50 basis point cut. Gerri Willis mentions that market strategists are also looking at the 2026 tax bill, which is expected to provide benefits to companies, write-offs, and significant refunds to individuals, potentially fueling first-quarter growth. Estimates for the impact of withholding rate changes range between $150-200 billion.

Impact of Artificial Intelligence (AI) on Employment

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on cost-cutting measures in the private sector, particularly layoffs. Examples cited include UPS cutting 48,000 jobs, Amazon potentially cutting up to 30,000, Microsoft 9,000, Salesforce 4,000, and Target 1,800. Liz Peek attributes these layoffs primarily to the adoption of Artificial Intelligence (AI). She notes that companies have been cautious about announcing AI investments and subsequent job cuts, but Amazon's recent announcement has been particularly bold.

Peek explains that AI is making operations more efficient, such as providing better guidance to drivers, leading to a need for fewer drivers, and automating tasks like stocking shelves with robots. She believes AI is a major topic that is not being discussed enough and anticipates more layoffs.

Mohamed El-Erian acknowledges that AI has an important role in labor displacement and enabling leaner organizations. However, he cautions against companies solely focusing on labor displacement as a "shortcut." He argues that the real power of AI lies in enabling labor, not just replacing it. El-Erian warns that if companies prioritize short-term cost savings through layoffs, it could lead to less support for the AI revolution and decouple growth from employment, making the Fed's job more difficult. He hopes companies will focus on enabling labor rather than just displacing it.

Kudlow questions whether this trend necessitates further Fed rate cuts. El-Erian suggests that this is a "great question" and that the Fed needs to consider the implications of technological advances on monetary policy.

Peek emphasizes the positive potential of AI in healthcare, where it can solve previously unsolvable problems. She believes that while AI may create jobs over time, there will be a period in the next few years where job creation in AI may not keep pace with job losses, leading to political pressure. Companies need to demonstrate returns on their AI investments, which currently translates to efficiencies and reduced headcount.

Monetary Policy and Productivity Revolution

Kudlow plans to ask Fed Governor Chris Waller about the impact of these trends on monetary policy. He believes the issue has not received enough attention. He suggests that technological advances, while not directly tied to monetary policy, are a factor the central bank must consider.

Regarding the Fed's upcoming decision, Kudlow expresses a preference for a 50 basis point cut over the expected 25 basis points. He believes the Fed should embrace the potential "productivity revolution" ahead. If they don't embrace it quickly enough, monetary policy might remain tighter than necessary.

Kudlow argues that the "break-even rate" will be lower and that the Fed should follow it down, starting sooner rather than later. He also notes that the Fed has not fully embraced the idea that tariff effects will not be inflationary. Chris Waller is mentioned as being a proponent of the "once and done" approach to tariffs.

Conclusion

The discussion highlights a strong economic performance driven by corporate profits and a strategic shift in U.S. trade policy towards Asia, aimed at reducing reliance on China. Simultaneously, the rapid adoption of AI is leading to significant cost-cutting and labor displacement in the private sector. The central debate revolves around how these factors, particularly the potential productivity gains from AI and the impact of tariffs, should influence the Federal Reserve's monetary policy decisions, with a call for the Fed to embrace the productivity revolution and adjust interest rates accordingly.