Tech Stocks Slide on Meta’s AI Spend, Apple and Amazon Earnings | The Close 10/30/2025

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Key Concepts

• AI Investment: Significant capital expenditure by tech giants on Artificial Intelligence infrastructure and development.
• Market Reaction to Earnings: Mixed investor sentiment driven by tech earnings, impacting stock market performance.
• Valuation Challenges: Difficulty in accurately valuing AI-driven technologies and their long-term potential.
• Financial Literacy: The impact of financial literacy on debt management and economic participation.
• Starbucks Turnaround Strategy: Initiatives focused on improving customer service and store experience to drive growth.
• Healthcare Earnings: Performance of major pharmaceutical companies like Eli Lilly, Merck, and Bristol-Myers Squibb.
• Investor Sentiment: Individual investor confidence and their approach to market volatility.
• Private Markets: Growing interest and access to private investments for high-net-worth individuals.
• E-commerce and Fintech in Latin America: Growth drivers and investment strategies for companies like MercadoLibre.
• Apple's Performance: Analysis of iPhone sales, China market impact, and future product pipeline.
• Amazon's Earnings: Performance of AWS, e-commerce, and the impact of AI investments.
• Delivery Service Partners (DSPs): Challenges faced by Amazon's last-mile delivery partners due to rising costs and Amazon's operational control.

Market Performance and AI Investment

The stock market experienced a rally that was put on pause, with the S&P 500 losing about 0.6% and the Nasdaq 100 down by 1%. This downturn was led by Big Tech. Curiously, this did not translate into a bid for bonds, as the 10-year Treasury yield was slightly higher, and the Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index was up by about 0.3%.

Yesterday's tech earnings significantly shifted market sentiment. Investors are scrutinizing Microsoft's substantial spending on data centers despite concerns about computing capacity. Mark Zuckerberg's decision to borrow $30 billion for aggressive AI spending has also been a point of focus. While Alphabet's investments are viewed more favorably, Amazon's upcoming earnings will be a retest of this sentiment.

The sheer amount of money these companies are investing in AI is staggering, with at least a quarter of their combined $1.5 trillion in annual revenue being allocated to AI. This ratio, however, belies the current lack of a clear return on investment. Some investors argue against calling it a bubble, believing the payoff is yet to come, citing a "vast societal change" and an underappreciated addressable market potential.

Kamal Bhatia, CEO and President at Principal Asset Management, highlighted the "staggering" level of investment in AI, noting that large mega-cap companies, historically capital-light and free cash flow generators, are now required to spend significant capital to participate in the AI transformation. This necessitates tapping into public and private markets.

Valuation Challenges in AI

Bhatia emphasized the challenge of obtaining a good sense of valuation in the AI space, stressing the importance of understanding intrinsic value. He drew a parallel to real estate and data center investments, where land and construction costs are tangible. However, the value of the technology within these data centers is rapidly evolving, making valuation difficult. He stated that Principal Asset Management participates where they can get a good sense of valuation and understand the payout, but acknowledges the risk in segments where a robust evaluation framework is elusive.

Katie inquired about valuing technology that rapidly becomes smaller, lighter, and easier to cool. Bhatia suggested two approaches: participating in the AI wave with discretion by picking specific firms, and looking beyond just tech companies to sectors like healthcare and retail that will be affected by the AI transformation, where valuations might be more reasonable.

Starbucks Turnaround Strategy

Brian Niccol, CEO of Starbucks, discussed the company's "Back to Starbucks" strategy and the "Green Apron Service Standard" aimed at engineering a turnaround after six consecutive quarters of contracting growth. The strategy involves better staffing with larger rosters and more hours for partners, enabling them to provide better customer connections and craft products, leading to transaction increases. This rebound was observed in September and continued into October, with positive comparable store sales driven by transaction gains. Niccol expressed optimism about building on this strong operational footing, particularly for the holiday season.

The strategy has seen success in North America and Canada, with low to mid-single-digit growth in comparable store transactions. China also reported its second consecutive quarter of comparable store growth.

Green Apron Project and Staffing

Niccol credited Starbucks partners for embracing the strategy and service standard. He highlighted that increased staffing and hours allow baristas to focus on craft and customer connection. The focus is on a great greeting, excellent handoff experience, comfortable store uplifts, and behind-the-scenes technology to manage orders. The initiative, implemented since mid-August, has seen positive partner responses.

Store Uplifts and Cost-Conscious Design

Niccol explained that store interior improvements ("uplifts") can be done cost-consciously while maintaining a great design and atmosphere. The focus is on back-of-house needs for partners and the front-of-house customer experience. These uplifts can be completed quickly, often overnight, without store closures. The combination of the Green Apron service and store uplifts aims to create a unique Starbucks experience. The company plans to complete over 1,000 store uplifts in the current fiscal year, with the goal of scaling this process for thousands of stores in the future. New stores are being built with the right design package from the outset.

Margin Outlook

Niccol expressed confidence that margins will follow topline success, aiming to return to pre-COVID earning levels. The strategy focuses on more transactions and a more profitable business per transaction.

Protein Platform and Pricing Strategy

Niccol discussed the early success of the "protein platform," noting incremental sales and increased frequency from rewards customers. Over 90% of drinks can now have protein added, aligning with health and wellness trends. Regarding pricing, Niccol stated Starbucks competes from a position of strength, leveraging its scale in drive-thru, digital, and delivery businesses, combined with its community aspect and personalization. The goal is to be the world's greatest customer service company.

China Strategy and Partnership

Starbucks is excited about its China business, with two consecutive quarters of comparable store growth. The company is in the process of finalizing a partnership with a private equity firm to expand its footprint in China from 8,000 to 15,000-20,000 stores. This partnership will leverage local market expertise to accelerate expansion. Niccol is optimistic about finalizing the deal in the near future, potentially before investor day in January.

Healthcare Earnings and Market Dynamics

Asad Haider, Head of U.S. Healthcare Research at Goldman Sachs, discussed earnings from Eli Lilly, Merck, and Bristol-Myers Squibb. Eli Lilly raised its full-year revenue forecast for weight loss and diabetes drugs, exceeding expectations and solidifying its lead over Novo Nordisk in the U.S. obesity market. Haider characterized the market as a duopoly between Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, with Eli Lilly emerging as the leader due to its pipeline and asset range.

Novo Nordisk's Pipeline and Acquisitions

Haider noted that Novo Nordisk might need to look towards externally sourced innovation to boost its pipeline, especially in the absence of near-term key pipeline drivers. The company is reportedly making a bid for a next-generation asset, which could be weighing on its stock.

Merck's Performance and Patent Cliff

Merck's results were characterized as a "slight beat and raise," but not of the same magnitude as Eli Lilly and Bristol-Myers Squibb. A key growth driver, a drug for a form of hypertension, came in later than expected, which is a concern for Merck heading into a patent cliff.

Investor Sentiment and Financial Planning

Penny Pennington, Managing Partner at Edward Jones, discussed investor sentiment, noting that clients are generally sanguine, continuing to invest money and showing increased spending. This suggests confidence in the near-term outlook. However, she anticipates upcoming volatility, given the strong rally since April.

Long-Term Investing and Emotional Detachment

Pennington emphasized that Edward Jones financial advisors work with clients to take a longer view and remove emotion from market decisions. This involves proper planning, asset allocation, and emergency cash reserves, enabling clients to ride out volatility and take advantage of opportunities.

Multigenerational Wealth and Emerging Products

Client conversations frequently turn to multigenerational wealth, including opportunities for children to save, invest, and buy homes. The impact of AI on job prospects is also a concern. Clients are interested in understanding unique new products like cryptocurrency and private assets, seeking perspective on how they might fit into their investment strategies.

Access to Private Markets

Pennington explained that for high-net-worth clients, a small allocation to private markets can be appropriate for diversification, as public equities and fixed income have become more correlated. However, private investments are not suitable for younger investors with less complex needs, as a bad early experience can negatively shape their risk tolerance. The liquidity and price transparency of private investments differ significantly from public vehicles, requiring careful understanding.

Edward Jones' Evolution and Bank Charter Pursuit

Edward Jones is pursuing an ILC bank charter to address the shortage of financial advice and provide a financial hub for clients' short, medium, and long-term needs. This includes a partnership with U.S. Bank for cash management solutions. The firm aims to combine human financial advisors with technology to serve clients across all aspects of their financial needs.

E-commerce and Fintech in Latin America

Martin de los Santos, CFO and Executive Vice President of MercadoLibre, discussed the company's strong quarterly results, driven by investments in bringing people online and financial inclusion. Commerce in Latin America remains low, presenting a significant opportunity.

Investment in E-commerce and Fintech

MercadoLibre saw strong e-commerce results in Brazil, attributed to lowering the free shipping threshold, which accelerated item sales growth from 26% to 42%. De los Santos emphasized that the company prioritizes long-term value creation over short-term margins, investing in its ecosystem, including credit card and fintech components.

AI Integration and Differentiation

MercadoLibre has been investing in AI for years for fraud prevention, credit scoring, and search. More recently, AI has improved customer experience and developer productivity. The company has launched AI-powered seller assistants and financial advisors. While some AI applications focus on cost savings, others enhance user experience.

Amazon's Earnings and AWS Performance

Amazon reported strong third-quarter results, with total sales beating expectations at $180.2 billion and adjusted EPS of $1.95. However, operating margin came in light at 9.7%, and Amazon Web Services (AWS) net sales of $33 billion were slightly below the street's expectation. Despite this, AWS growth re-accelerated to 20.2% year-over-year, a pace not seen since 2022.

AWS Growth and AI Investment

Andy Jassy, CEO of Amazon, highlighted the strong momentum and growth across Amazon, driven by AI. He noted that AWS is growing at a pace not seen since 2022, with re-acceleration to 20.2% year-over-year. The company's investment in Anthropic, a rival to OpenAI, is expected to contribute to AWS growth. Amazon is conscious of overbuilding, having learned from its retail side during the pandemic. The company aims to offer less expensive compute services, maintaining its dominance in the cloud business.

Delivery Service Partner (DSP) Challenges

Jake Clay, a former CEO of an Amazon delivery firm, described the challenges faced by DSPs due to rising industry costs (insurance, wages) that do not directly correlate with Amazon's payment structure. This leads to decreasing profits for DSP owners despite Amazon's massive profits. Clay believes the DSP business model is not long-term sustainable and that Amazon may eventually move towards AI-controlled vehicles for deliveries. Amazon stated that the anecdotes shared by a small number of DSPs do not reflect the experience of the vast majority, with 80% of contractors generating annual profits of at least $100,000.

Apple's Earnings and Product Strategy

Apple reported a record September quarter with $102 billion in revenue, beating estimates. However, iPhone revenue of $49 billion was slightly below expectations, and Greater China revenue decreased by 3% year-over-year, missing estimates significantly. Despite this, Apple shares reversed initial losses and moved higher in after-hours trading.

iPhone Sales and China Market

While iPhone sales were strong overall, the performance in Greater China was a concern. Analysts noted that China is becoming less important to Apple's overall revenue, contributing more volatility than growth. The competition from local players like Huawei and the growing consumer favoritism towards AI in China are challenges.

Wearables, Home, and Accessories

The Wearables, Home, and Accessories segment, which includes AirPods and Apple Watches, is expected to see more traction next year with new smart home devices. However, the smart home market is dominated by Amazon and Google, making it a difficult segment for Apple to penetrate.

Product Pipeline and AI Strategy

Apple is expected to roll out a foldable iPhone at the end of next year, along with new MacBook Air and iPad models. An updated AI strategy is anticipated in June, with AI integration into services products in September. More significant product releases like smart glasses and a higher-end Vision Pro are expected in later years. The company's chip strategy, with in-house chips for various devices, is a key focus.

Smartphone Market Growth and Emerging Markets

Emerging markets, such as India and Turkey, are expected to drive future growth for Apple, with strong double-digit growth observed. The average lifespan of smartphones, particularly iPhones, suggests a significant upgrade cycle is due for a large installed base of iPhones purchased between 2020 and 2021.

Other Notable Earnings and Market Movements

• MercadoLibre: Reported strong results driven by investments in bringing people online and financial inclusion, with e-commerce growth accelerating in Brazil.
• Zillow: Reported revenue growth across its for-sale and rentals marketplaces, driven by its integrated transaction strategy. The company expects its home loans business to become larger over time.
• Coinbase: Reported total revenue above estimates, but trading volume missed expectations.
• Reddit: Beat estimates for daily active users and net income, leading to a significant after-hours share increase.
• Twilio: Provided an outlook above street estimates for adjusted operating income and organic revenue.
• Netflix: Announced a 10-for-one stock split.

Conclusion

The market is grappling with the immense investments in AI, leading to mixed reactions to tech earnings. While some companies are seeing clear pathways to monetization and future growth, others face challenges in demonstrating a tangible return on their AI spending. The focus remains on long-term potential, with investors seeking clarity on how these massive investments will translate into sustained profitability and market leadership. The performance of key players like Amazon and Apple in their recent earnings reports provides insights into their strategies and market positioning in this evolving technological landscape.