Tariffs have been a good reason for investors to sell, says Michael Landsberg
By CNBC Television
Key Concepts:
- Tariffs and their impact on investment decisions
- GDP slowing and its effect on earnings
- Market correction vs. recession
- Sector rotation: Tech/Discretionary vs. Healthcare/Staples/Utilities/Insurance
- International diversification: Europe as an investment alternative
- Inflation measurement: PCE vs. CPI
- Federal Reserve's handling of inflation
1. Investment Strategy in the Face of Uncertainty
- Michael Landsberg advises caution about going "all in" on any investment due to market uncertainty, particularly concerning tariffs.
- He suggests that CEOs and investors should reconsider deploying capital in the US for manufacturing due to tariff implications.
- Landsberg recommends focusing on areas less affected by tariffs, specifically necessities.
2. Tariffs and Economic Slowdown
- Landsberg believes the recent market sell-off (Nasdaq down 10.4%, S&P down 4.5%) doesn't fully reflect the potential pain from tariffs.
- He argues that GDP is slowing, and earnings are expected to decelerate, contributing to market concerns.
- He clarifies that earnings will decelerate from their previous growth rate, but not necessarily be lower overall.
3. Market Correction vs. Recession
- Landsberg doesn't anticipate a recession but expects slower GDP growth.
- He cautions against "picking a falling knife" in the Nasdaq, which has had a significant run-up in the past two years.
- He notes that the S&P 500 is currently around 5600, and a test of 5000 or even 4500 is plausible, representing a 10% correction.
- He suggests that without tariffs, a market correction would be less likely.
4. Sector Rotation and Safe Havens
- The market sell-off is driven by uncertainty, causing investors to take profits, especially from high-performing tech and discretionary stocks.
- Money is flowing into sectors that have underperformed, such as healthcare and staples, indicating a rebalancing trade.
- Landsberg points out that the S&P 500 is still down 8.7% from its all-time high, and the Nasdaq is down more than 14%.
5. International Diversification
- Landsberg suggests looking at Europe as an investment alternative, as it was in a "lousy place" for a couple of years but now presents opportunities.
- He believes allocating some investments outside the US is prudent, given the current market conditions.
6. Defensive Sectors and Consumer Behavior
- He favors sectors with essential products and services, such as utilities, insurance, and staples.
- He anticipates that consumers and businesses will postpone discretionary purchases due to economic uncertainty.
7. Federal Reserve and Inflation
- Landsberg expresses concern about the Federal Reserve's handling of inflation, citing the "transitory" narrative and instances where inflation exceeded expectations.
- He criticizes the use of PCE (Personal Consumption Expenditures) as an inflation metric, preferring CPI (Consumer Price Index) because it more accurately reflects the investor's experience.
- He notes that in September, PCE was flat, while CPI rose by 2-2.5%, and the CRB (Commodity Research Bureau) index increased by 20%.
8. Conclusion
Michael Landsberg advises a cautious investment approach due to tariff uncertainties and a slowing economy. He recommends diversifying internationally, focusing on defensive sectors like utilities, insurance, and staples, and being wary of the Federal Reserve's inflation management. He suggests that a market correction is possible, but a recession is less likely. The key takeaway is to prioritize investments in essential goods and services and avoid discretionary spending until there is more clarity on the tariff situation.
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