Rebel's Edge - The Palantir Miss

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Key Concepts

  • Market Volatility and Corrections: Discussion of market downturns, the definition of a correction, and the reasons behind daily market movements.
  • Valuation Metrics (PE Ratio): Emphasis on the Price-to-Earnings (PE) ratio, particularly for high-growth tech stocks, and the debate around whether high PEs are justified.
  • Earnings Season: Analysis of Q3 earnings reports, focusing on beats, revenue, and margins.
  • Unusual Option Activity (UOA): Identification and interpretation of significant option trades as indicators of market sentiment and potential future price movements.
  • Company-Specific Analysis: In-depth looks at Palantir, AMD, Uber, and Upwork, examining their financial performance, stock movements, and analyst perspectives.
  • Sports Analysis: Discussion of emerging football talent (Drew Meaker, Sam Darnold) and college football playoff contenders (Utah).
  • General Manager/Coaching Decisions: Critique of strategic decisions made by NFL general managers and coaches.

Market Overview and Palantir Valuation

The episode opens with a discussion of market volatility, noting that the Dow experienced a significant drop of 400 points during the day but then rallied back, ending the session with a smaller loss. The hosts question the rationale behind market movements, particularly the sharp sell-off in some tech stocks.

A central theme is the valuation of Palantir (PLTR). John Nagarian and Pete express skepticism about the company's extremely high Price-to-Earnings (PE) ratio, which is cited as being over 400, with a forward PE around 200-230. They argue that while the stock has had a significant run-up (up 150% year-to-date), the current valuation seems excessive, especially when compared to historical norms. Despite this, Palantir reported strong Q3 earnings, beating revenue expectations with a significant increase in margins (51% from 39% year-over-year) and a 121% surge in commercial revenue. Nagarian suggests that while the high PE is a concern, the strong commercial growth might offer some justification, and options strategies like buying puts or selling calls could be used to manage risk.

Macroeconomic and Earnings Insights

The discussion touches upon Michael Burry, known for "The Big Short," who has expressed concerns about the market, specifically mentioning Palantir and Nvidia as "stretched." However, Pete counters this by highlighting that 85% of Q3 earnings have been beats, representing 65% of total companies. This suggests a generally strong earnings season despite macroeconomic headwinds like tariffs.

Berkshire Hathaway is presented as a counterpoint to market anxieties. The company reported an extraordinary cash pile of $381 billion in Q3, with operating earnings up 34%. This is highlighted as a sign of financial strength and a company whose actions are worth listening to.

Unusual Option Activity (UOA) and VIX

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Unusual Option Activity (UOA). Pete's call from the previous week regarding a large trade in VIX December 33 calls is revisited. A trader, nicknamed "50 Cent," reportedly accumulated 129,000 calls at 87 cents each, representing an investment of approximately $11.2 million. This trade controlled about $425 million worth of stock. The hosts emphasize the importance of paying attention to such large option trades as potential indicators of market sentiment.

The VIX itself saw a spike to over 20 (around 20.50), a roughly 13% move, on the day's market sell-off. However, this spike was not sustained, and the VIX quickly retreated to 18. The hosts note that while there are indeed stocks with high PEs, the market's reaction to the VIX spike was short-lived, suggesting that the current market downturn might not be as severe as initially perceived. The S&P 500 was down less than 1% at the time of the discussion, which they deem not a reason for panic.

Company-Specific Stock Analysis

  • Palantir (PLTR): As detailed above, the focus is on its high PE ratio versus strong revenue growth and margin expansion.
  • AMD: The company is set to report earnings after the bell. Unusual option activity was noted the previous day, with significant put buying when the stock was trading around $256. This suggests a bet that the stock might break a triple or quadruple bottom support level, despite potentially strong earnings. Morgan Stanley has a price target of $264, citing strong data center demand. The hosts acknowledge that AMD's 55% surge in October makes it vulnerable to a pullback, justifying the put buying as a protective measure.
  • Uber (UBER): Despite a strong Q3 earnings report (EPS of $3.11 vs. an estimate of $0.69, and revenue of $13.5 billion), Uber's stock dropped by roughly 8%. The hosts suggest that weaker guidance might have been the cause. Pete notes that Uber's PE ratio is relatively low (15-16), making the 8% dip potentially attractive, especially given the company's strong earnings beat and 22% increase in trips.
  • Upwork (UPWK): Shares surged up to 20% after Q3 earnings. Unusual option activity was also present, with calls trading around $19. The stock had traded at $17.17 in early October. The company beat earnings estimates by seven cents (36 cents vs. 29 cents) and saw revenue increase by over 4% year-over-year. Pete describes Upwork as a "grinder" stock that consistently moves higher, and the UOA and positive earnings further supported its upward trajectory.

Sports Segment: Football Talent and Analysis

The show transitions to sports, focusing on emerging football talent and NFL analysis.

  • Drew Meaker (North Texas State Quarterback): Highlighted as a potential "next Tom Brady," Meaker was a walk-on who didn't start a single game in high school. He is now being offered millions to play professionally. His coach, who is also Patrick Mahomes' private coach, calls him a "generational talent." Meaker's impressive performance, including a 608-yard game, is showcased.
  • Sam Darnold (Minnesota Vikings Quarterback): Pete argues that Sam Darnold should be considered for MVP. He traces Darnold's career from a high draft pick with the Jets to his current success with the Vikings, where he has thrown 35 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. Darnold's recent performance, including a first half with four touchdowns, zero interceptions, and zero incompletions on his first 16 passes, is emphasized. His QBR has been above 97 three out of four times. The hosts criticize the Vikings' general manager and "quarterback whisperer" for letting Darnold and Daniel Jones (now with the Colts) leave, as both are performing at high levels. Darnold's stats for the season are compared favorably to Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes in terms of yards per attempt and passer rating.
  • Utah Utes Football: The discussion turns to college football and the playoff picture. Pete argues that Utah deserves a playoff spot if they win out. He points to their two losses against top-10 teams (Texas Tech and BYU) and their dominant win over Cincinnati (ranked #17 at the time). Utah's strengths include a dual-threat quarterback, a strong defense (top 15 nationally), and a large offensive line. John Nagarian agrees, noting Utah's top-15 defense and a solid offense with a good touchdown-to-interception ratio. They believe Utah would be a difficult opponent for any team, with the exception of Ohio State, which is presented as a dominant force with the best quarterback and receivers in college football. Utah's decisive wins over Colorado and UCLA are also mentioned as evidence of their strength.

Conclusion and Future Broadcasts

The hosts reiterate the importance of watching for AMD's earnings after the bell, noting the significant bets being placed on the stock. They confirm their broadcast schedule:

  • Tomorrow at 1 PM EST.
  • Pete will be in "parts unknown" (Minnesota), while John will be at the New York Stock Exchange.
  • John will be on Oliver's show tonight.
  • Both will be on News Nation on Wednesday at 5:45 PM.

The episode concludes with a thank you to the New York Stock Exchange crew and a preview of upcoming content.

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