One strategist shares a Nvidia earnings preview and explains why AI bubble talk is 'overdone'

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Key Concepts

• Bubble Talk: The discussion around whether current market valuations, particularly in technology, are unsustainable and poised for a significant decline.
• Capex Spending: Capital expenditures, referring to investments made by companies in physical assets like property, plant, and equipment.
• Earnings Growth: The increase in a company's profits over a period.
• Consumer Sentiment: The general attitude of consumers towards the economy and their willingness to spend.
• AI (Artificial Intelligence): A transformative technology driving significant market interest and investment.
• "Picks and Shovels" Strategy: An investment approach focused on companies that supply the tools and infrastructure for a burgeoning industry, rather than the industry itself.
• Fortress Balance Sheets: Companies with strong financial health, characterized by low debt and ample cash reserves.
• Investment Grade Rating: A credit rating assigned to a company or bond indicating a low risk of default.
• Junk Status: A credit rating below investment grade, indicating a higher risk of default.

Analysis of Market Sentiment and Bubble Concerns

Nancy Tangler, CIO and CEO of Lafer Tangler Investments, suggests that the "spectre of a steeper decline" and the prevalent "bubble talk" might be overblown. She posits that much of the current narrative is driven by individuals who exited the market during previous downturns (like the "tariff tantrum") and have not re-entered, despite significant valuation increases since then.

Tangler contrasts the current market environment with the 1990s. She notes that in the '90s, capital expenditure (capex) spending was escalating throughout the decade, and earnings growth for growth stocks was expanding at 20% from 1996 to 2000. In contrast, during that latter period of the '90s, earnings were contracting, and the best-performing stocks were those with no earnings. This is not the case now, as current earnings growth is more robust. While acknowledging the possibility of an "overbuild," Tangler states it doesn't appear to be happening yet or in the foreseeable future.

Consumer Sentiment and Economic Indicators

A key observation is the apparent ambivalence of "normal people" towards the current innovation wave, particularly AI. Survey data suggests people are concerned about potential job losses, a disconnect that feels more dramatic than in past innovation cycles.

Tangler believes this sentiment may be exacerbated by a lack of current data. However, she anticipates that the "one big beautiful bill act" (likely referring to a stimulus or tax refund program) will contribute to consumer spending. The bill's retroactive nature and unadjusted payroll taxes are expected to result in significant refunds, estimated between $150 to $200 billion. This money is projected to be spent, primarily by the lower-income cohort, who tend to spend more readily. Consequently, Tangler's firm has been increasing exposure to consumer discretionary stocks, expecting sentiment to shift upward.

This optimism is supported by persistently low unemployment levels. While layoffs are occurring, they are not at the scale seen during recessions or weak job environments. Tangler suggests that a vacuum of information has amplified negative sentiment.

Upcoming Economic Data and Future Outlook

The upcoming jobs report for September is expected to provide more current data. Tangler anticipates that while the numbers might not be "great," they will not be "horrible." Clues from ADP weekly numbers, Ravilio numbers, and ISM data (for manufacturing and services employment) suggest that consumers are still spending, albeit mostly the upper-income cohort.

Further support for a positive outlook includes:

• Wage Growth: Expected next year, which will aid consumers.
• Tax Refunds: As mentioned, these will provide significant support.
• Productivity: The dramatic upward revisions to jobs numbers over the last two years (1.7 million) suggest that productivity is actually better than reported.

Tangler expresses optimism that these factors will lead to a positive shift, with "enthusiasm around AI" once optimism becomes more widespread.

Investment Strategy in the AI Era

Despite the broader market concerns, Tangler's firm is actively buying and holding the "AI trade." Their strategy focuses on established leaders with "fortress balance sheets" and the ability to issue debt attractively. Examples include Amazon (mentioned in their "12 best ideas portfolio 5 for 25") and Nvidia.

Their approach also includes:

• Thematic Strategies: A recently launched strategy focuses on speculative areas like quantum, robotics, and nuclear.
• Embracing New Technologies: Investing in "old economy companies" that are integrating new technologies, citing Walmart and Raytheon as examples.
• Suppliers of "Picks and Shovels": Investing in companies that provide the infrastructure for the AI boom.

Concerns Regarding Debt and Speculative Companies

Tangler acknowledges concerns about companies with more debt on their balance sheets, particularly more speculative ones like Oracle, which has been downgraded to junk status. Her primary concern centers on the capital expenditure commitments made by companies like OpenAI and the potential inability to generate sufficient revenue or raise capital to cover these expenses.

Regarding Oracle, Tangler notes that the company is committed to maintaining its investment-grade rating. She believes the recent sell-off in Oracle's stock was not entirely justified, suggesting it became a "narrative stock" and a "dumping ground" for concerns following Meta's earnings and OpenAI's perceived overcommitment. Her firm, which holds Oracle in its TGLR ETF, trimmed its position but still owns a significant stake and may consider adding to it.

Conclusion

Tangler's perspective is that the current market narrative of an impending bubble is likely exaggerated. While acknowledging some rich valuations and potential overbuilds, she points to strong underlying economic fundamentals, particularly in employment and consumer spending, supported by government stimulus. Her investment strategy prioritizes established leaders and companies adapting to new technologies, while remaining cautious about highly leveraged and speculative entities. The market's reaction to certain stocks, like Oracle, is seen as driven more by narrative than by fundamental deterioration.