Nvidia Is the 'Rocky Balboa' of AI, Ives Says
By Bloomberg Television
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Key Concepts
- NVIDIA's Dominance in AI: Positioned as the leading force in the AI revolution, with a significant demand-supply imbalance for its chips.
- AI Revolution vs. Tech Bubble: The current AI spending is characterized as a foundational moment (like 1996) rather than an unsustainable bubble (like 1999).
- Vertical Integration Challenges: While Big Tech companies are developing their own chips, NVIDIA's current lead and the sheer demand create a significant gap.
- Funding AI Growth: The massive projected spending in AI is expected to be funded by enterprise adoption and future revenue generation, not solely current consumer-facing applications.
- Multiple Winners in AI: The AI race is not a zero-sum game, with various companies expected to benefit and succeed.
- US Tech Leadership: For the first time in 30 years, the US is leading China in technological advancement.
NVIDIA's Position and Strategy
Dan Ives of Wedbush maintains a bullish stance on NVIDIA, describing the company as the "indisputable Rocky Balboa champion of the AI revolution." He interprets NVIDIA's public statements, including congratulating competitors like Google and addressing stock price dips, not as a sign of weakness or a "PR push" to fight a falling share price, but as a demonstration of transparency. Ives emphasizes that NVIDIA is "out there front and center" and acknowledges the overwhelming demand for their chips, which he states is a "12 to one" ratio for demand to supply. He believes that NVIDIA's leadership, personified by CEO Jensen Huang, will continue to dominate, with other companies "paying rent" in NVIDIA's ecosystem. Ives likens the current stage of the AI party to "10:30 p.m." with the potential to last until "4:00 a.m."
Vulnerability to Vertical Integration and Competitive Landscape
Matt raises a comparison to Intel's past, where companies like Apple moved to create their own chips, leading to Intel's current need for government assistance. He questions why NVIDIA isn't vulnerable to the same vertical integration by Meta, Google, and Amazon. Dan Ives acknowledges the point but argues that NVIDIA is "four years ahead of anyone else in the world." He reiterates that the current demand is "12:1," meaning NVIDIA cannot meet existing demand, making immediate widespread vertical integration less of a threat. He believes the "second and third and fourth derivatives of AI" will lead to $3 to $4 trillion in spending, making the current situation more akin to a "1996 moment" than a "1999 tech bubble."
Funding the AI Revolution and Revenue Streams
The discussion shifts to how the projected $3 to $4 trillion in AI spending will be funded, referencing Sam Altman's difficulty in answering how OpenAI will fund its $1.4 trillion goal with only $14 billion in revenue. Matt points out that even paid services like ChatGPT are not generating massive immediate revenue. Dan Ives clarifies that the current revenue stream is primarily "enterprise." He highlights that only 3% of companies in the U.S. have adopted AI, with adoption also beginning in Asia. He sees OpenAI's potential extending beyond ChatGPT to enterprise and consumer applications, which have not yet fully materialized. Ives believes that for every dollar spent on AI, companies will see a return of "$12 or $15 or $20" in revenue, similar to NVIDIA's model.
Enterprise Race and Potential Winners
Dani questions whether Google, with its existing enterprise relationships and brand recognition, would win the enterprise AI race over OpenAI. Dan Ives suggests there will be "many winners," including Microsoft and Oracle. He points to Google's recent resurgence, driven by Google Cloud, chip advancements with Broadcom, and a potential deal with Apple for Gemini to be their AI partner. This reinforces his view that the AI landscape is broader than just NVIDIA, and while he believes NVIDIA will "go much higher," the focus is on the "second, third, fourth derivatives playing out across the world." He also notes that for the first time in 30 years, the U.S. is ahead of China in technology.
Investment Opportunity and Conclusion
Dani asks if NVIDIA's dip to its lowest point in the month represents an "incredible buying opportunity." Dan Ives reiterates his belief in the $5 to $6 trillion market potential for AI. He concludes by emphasizing that Jensen Huang and NVIDIA are the "godfather" and the "ship fueling the AI revolution." While acknowledging that dips will occur and other players like Google will emerge, he maintains that nothing will rival NVIDIA's position as the "Rocky Balboa of the AI revolution."
Notable Quotes
- "NVIDIA is the indisputable Rocky Balboa champion of the AI revolution and that is not changing any time soon on the chip front." - Dan Ives
- "It is the recognition that they are transparent. NVIDIA's not trying to hide anything." - Dan Ives
- "NVIDIA's not trying to hide anything. They are saying we are out there front and center and it just comes down to demand to supply is 12 to one for their chips." - Dan Ives
- "It continues to be NVIDIA's world and everyone else is paying rent." - Dan Ives
- "This is a 1996 moment, not a 1999 tech bubble moment." - Dan Ives
- "There will be many winners." - Dan Ives
- "For the first time in 30 years the U.S. is ahead of China when it comes to tech." - Dan Ives
- "There is only one godfather and that is Jensen there is one ship fueling the AI revolution that continues to be NVIDIA." - Dan Ives
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