Mainstream Waking Up To Silver Shortages | Steve Barton

Liberty and FinanceAbout 8 min readOct 25, 2025Watch original
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Key Concepts

  • Gold and Silver Markets: Analysis of current price action, technical patterns, and future targets for gold and silver.
  • Technical Analysis: Use of chart patterns (cup and handle, bull flag), Fibonacci extensions, RSI, MACD, and moving averages to predict price movements.
  • Cup and Handle Pattern: A bullish continuation pattern in technical analysis, with specific methods for calculating price targets (value target and logarithmic target).
  • Fibonacci Extension: A tool used to project potential future price levels based on historical price swings.
  • RSI (Relative Strength Index) and MACD (Moving Average Convergence Divergence): Technical indicators used to gauge market momentum and potential overbought/oversold conditions.
  • 200-Day Moving Average: A widely watched technical level that often acts as support or resistance.
  • Backwardation and Contango: Market conditions related to the relationship between spot prices and futures prices. Backwardation signifies stress and immediate demand.
  • Platinum Market: Analysis of platinum's breakout from a triangle pattern and its ratio to gold.
  • Speculative Positions vs. Bullion: Distinction between trading volatile assets like miners and holding physical precious metals.
  • Dollar-Cost Averaging: A strategy of investing a fixed amount of money at regular intervals.

Gold Market Analysis

Gold's Breakout and Technical Targets

  • Current Price Action: Gold has broken through the $4100 level, which is considered a significant technical achievement.
  • Cup and Handle Pattern: The gold chart exhibits a classic cup and handle pattern, identified as a bullish continuation pattern.
    • Value Target: Measured from the bottom of the cup to the top of the handle, this target was approximately $3100, which has already been surpassed.
    • Logarithmic Target: Calculated as a percentage move from the bottom to the top of the cup, this target was approximately 100%. The breakout from the handle, when extended by 100%, hit just above $4100 on the day of the interview.
  • Jordan's Research (The Daily Gold): It's noted that historically, the logarithmic target of a cup and handle pattern is hit approximately 12 months after the value target is met.
  • Fibonacci Extension Analysis:
    • A Fibonacci extension was applied to the last 25 years of gold price action, using the low around 2000 ($250), the high in August 2011, and the low in November 2015.
    • Key Fibonacci levels identified include 38.2%, 50%, 61.8%, 78.6%, and 100% retracements. These levels have historically acted as significant price points for support and resistance.
    • The 61.8% retracement level coincided with a triple top.
    • The 1.618 level, previously expected to be strong resistance, was "sliced through."
  • Projected Future Targets:
    • The next Fibonacci extension target is projected around $4400.
    • Subsequent targets are around $5400 and then $7000.
  • Overbought Conditions:
    • Quarterly Chart: The RSI and MACD on the quarterly chart are as stretched as they were in 2011. The MACD has never been this stretched before.
    • Monthly Chart: The monthly RSI is at 92, and the MACD is at unprecedented levels.
    • Weekly Chart: The weekly chart also shows stretched technicals, with MACD levels comparable to 1980.

Gold Pullback Targets and Strategy

  • Prudent Trimming of Speculative Positions: While not selling physical gold (like PHYS), the speaker is trimming speculative positions in gold miners (e.g., GDX, GDXJ) due to extreme stretching in their technical indicators.
  • Potential Pullback Levels:
    • Primary Target: $3500: This level is significant as it previously acted as resistance and is expected to become strong support. It also coincides with the 200-day moving average, a key technical level for traders. This would be an ideal re-entry point.
    • Secondary Targets: $3750 (Fibonacci extension level) and $4000 (psychological level).
  • Dollar-Cost Averaging: The identified pullback levels are considered good opportunities for dollar-cost averaging or doubling down on positions.

Silver Market Analysis

Silver's Price Action and Technical Targets

  • Current Price: Silver has surpassed the $50 level and is currently trading above it.
  • Uptrend: The futures price shows an uptrend, with a potential trendline being approached, drawn from the 1980 and 2011 highs.
  • Fibonacci Extension for Silver:
    • Similar to gold, a Fibonacci extension was applied using the turn of the century low, the 2011 high, and the February/March 2020 lows (around $12).
    • Previous Fibonacci levels (38.2%, 50%, 61.8%) have acted as support and resistance.
    • The 78.6% level (around $47.50-$48) has been exceeded.
  • Projected Future Targets:
    • Next target: $57.
    • Subsequent targets: $69.76, $85, and the 200% retracement level just over $100.
  • $50 as Support: The psychological $50 level, once a resistance, is now expected to act as support.

Silver Market Scenarios and Probabilities

Three likely scenarios for silver's near-term future are presented:

  1. Sharp Spike and Pullback: Silver reaches a ceiling (estimated between $48-$53) and experiences a sharp pullback to the mid to low $40s. The floor is considered $35, with the speaker believing $35 silver may not be seen again.
  2. Bull Flag Pattern: Silver mimics gold's pattern from 2023, with a spike up, a failed breakout, and then sideways consolidation forming a bull flag pattern before the next leg up. This is considered the most likely scenario.
  3. Blow-off Top: A complete parabolic surge to the $60s and $70s.

Probability Assessment (as of the interview):

  • Bull Flag Pattern: 50% (most likely)
  • Sharp Pullback: 30%
  • Blow-off Top: 20%

The speaker notes that the probability of a sharp correction has decreased because it hasn't happened yet, and the price has been consolidating.

Backwardation in the Silver Market

Definition and Significance

  • Contango: Futures price is higher than the spot price, reflecting costs of carry (storage, insurance). This is the normal state.
  • Backwardation: Futures price is lower than the spot price. This indicates stress in the market, with buyers willing to pay a premium for immediate delivery due to fears of future shortages.
  • Current Situation: The futures price is $50.46, while the spot price is $51.90, indicating backwardation. This means people are willing to pay $1.50 more per ounce to get silver now than to secure a contract for delivery a month later, despite the costs of carry.

Historical Context and Implications

  • Charting Backwardation: A chart showing the difference between the futures and spot silver price (futures minus spot) is presented.
    • Above the zero line: Contango.
    • Below the zero line: Backwardation.
  • 1980 Parallel: The current extreme backwardation is comparable to the situation in 1980 when the Hunt brothers attempted to corner the silver market.
  • Correlation with Price Spikes: Overlaying the silver price with the backwardation spread reveals a strong correlation between spikes in backwardation and blow-off tops in silver prices (1980, 2011, and currently).
  • Market Stress Signal: Backwardation signals stress in the market, with traders preferring physical metal now over paper contracts for the future. This suggests a potential breakdown between the physical and paper silver markets.
  • Shortage Confirmation: The backwardation is interpreted as evidence that the market is finally waking up to a persistent shortage of silver.

Platinum Market Analysis

Platinum's Breakout and Ratio to Gold

  • Previous State: Platinum was trading in a range of $900-$1000 per ounce, with low order volume.
  • Current Breakout: Platinum has broken out of a triangle pattern, signaling the start of a bull market.
  • Platinum-to-Gold Ratio: The speaker focuses on the ratio of platinum to gold rather than just the price.
    • Average Ratio: Historically, the ratio has been north of 1:1 (meaning 1 ounce of gold was worth more than 1 ounce of platinum).
    • Current Situation: It currently takes more than 2 ounces of platinum to get 1 ounce of gold.
  • Trading Strategy based on Ratios:
    • 1:1 Ratio: When 1 ounce of platinum equals 1 ounce of gold, the speaker plans to trade half of their platinum position for physical gold.
    • 1.5:1 Ratio: At this point, 1 ounce of platinum will be traded for 1.5 ounces of gold (a 30% trade).
    • Blow-off Top Ratio: If a blow-off top occurs, the remaining 20% of the platinum position will be traded for gold, where 1 platinum coin would yield 2 gold coins.
  • Rarity and Value Discrepancy: Platinum is estimated to be 25-50 times rarer than gold but is trading at less than half the price. The speaker believes this discrepancy will resolve itself.
  • Speculative Bet: The speaker acknowledges that playing platinum based on ratios is a speculative bet, with limited historical use as money (except by Russians in the 1800s).
  • Silver-to-Platinum Swap: The speaker has also swapped some silver for platinum, which has been a good decision so far.

General Market Outlook and Investment Strategy

  • Long-Term Bull Market: Despite potential short-term pullbacks, the speaker believes the bull market in precious metals is ongoing and far from over, citing government debt and deficits as underlying drivers.
  • Holding Physical Metals: The speaker strongly advises against selling physical gold or silver unless it's an emergency.
  • Trimming Speculative Positions: It is prudent to trim speculative positions in miners (gold and silver) to take some profits off the table, but not to sell them entirely.
  • "Diamond Hands": The speaker encourages holding onto precious metals, especially physical holdings.

Speaker's Resources

  • Steve Barton's Show: "Monday Market Moves" every Sunday, covering charts, commodities, and interviews with guests like Rick Rule, Lobo Tigray, and Adrien Day.
  • Website: stevebartonmoney.com for more information and technical analysis series.

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