Jony Ive Joins OpenAI, Waymo Hits 10M Rides, and How to Launch a Marketplace from Scratch | E2129

This Week in StartupsAbout 6 min readMay 22, 2025Watch original
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Scott Adams, OpenAI & Johnny Ive acquisition, recording devices & privacy, Brex & Zip partnership, Whimo's progress, AI model competition, stablecoin regulation, Polymarket & prediction markets, startup marketplace creation, SAS advice contradictions.

Scott Adams' Terminal Cancer and Impact

Jason Calacanis shares the news of Scott Adams' terminal prostate cancer that has spread to his bones. He expresses admiration for Adams' consistency as a broadcaster and acknowledges his influence, particularly Adams' concept of "systems over goals." Calacanis explains how Adams' emphasis on systems helped him understand the importance of creating processes to achieve goals. He notes Adams' impact on founders and his own team, encouraging them to develop systems for achieving their objectives. Calacanis reflects on Adams' career, including the creation of Dilbert, and emphasizes the importance of considering a person's totality and intent, regardless of political differences.

OpenAI Acquires Johnny Ive's "LoveFrom"

OpenAI is set to acquire Johnny Ive's design firm, LoveFrom, for $6.5 billion in an all-stock transaction. Ive, known for his iconic Apple designs, is expected to contribute to OpenAI's hardware development, potentially leading to innovative AI-integrated devices. The acquisition is seen as a bet on Ive's ability to significantly enhance OpenAI's value. The discussion touches on the potential for a new physical device incorporating AI, possibly glasses, and the importance of design in OpenAI's products. The hosts debate whether Ive's designs will make OpenAI 2% more successful, justifying the acquisition cost. They also discuss Apple's design process under Ive, where numerous designs were created but only a fraction were released.

Recording Devices and Privacy Concerns

The conversation shifts to concerns about always-on recording devices, such as the Ray-Ban Meta glasses. The hosts discuss the potential for privacy violations and the need for legislation to regulate their use. They propose a standard for recording devices in public spaces, including a visible warning light when recording. The discussion highlights the importance of transparency and consent when recording others, even in Zoom calls. Calacanis suggests that board calls should not be recorded or summarized by AI to avoid potential legal issues. He draws an analogy to gun control, suggesting that property owners should have the right to prohibit recording devices on their premises. The hosts criticize the design of the Meta Ray-Bans, arguing that the recording indicator light should be more prominent and universally recognized (red).

Brex and Zip Partnership

Brex, a corporate spend startup, is partnering with Zip, a $2 billion corporate procurement orchestration company. Instead of competing directly, Brex will integrate Zip's services into its platform. This partnership allows Brex to focus on its core business while providing its customers with a broader range of financial tools. The hosts discuss the potential for this partnership to lead to a future acquisition, similar to the KOD and Grammarly merger. Calacanis uses the example of Weblogs Inc. being acquired by AOL after a partnership discussion. He also notes that Open AI was working with Johnny Ivor before acquiring his company.

Whimo's Progress and Autonomous Driving

Whimo has reached 10 million paid rides, with half of those rides occurring in the last five months, indicating significant growth and commercial viability. The hosts discuss the implications of Whimo's progress for the autonomous driving industry, including Tesla's efforts. Elon Musk plans to release Austin testing units at the end of the month. The hosts debate the differences between Whimo's approach, which relies on constrained areas and lidar, and Tesla's approach, which uses generalized AI without lidar. Calacanis predicts that there will be a healthy mix of human and autonomous drivers for the next five years, with autonomous vehicles taking over city centers and human drivers moving to the suburbs.

AI Model Competition and Microsoft's Azure AI Foundry

Microsoft has added XAI's Groth models to its Azure AI Foundry, creating more competition in the AI model market. This move is seen as a positive development, as it prevents OpenAI, Deep Seek, Enthropic, and Google from controlling too much of the market. The hosts discuss the importance of having multiple players and options in the AI space. They also note the potential for Elon Musk's models to become competitive with OpenAI's chat GPT.

Stablecoin Regulation and the Genius Act

The Senate has advanced the stablecoin bill, the Guiding and Establishing National Innovation for US Stable Coins Act (GENIUS Act), which aims to regulate stablecoins in the United States. The hosts discuss the growth of the stablecoin market and the need for clear regulations. They express concerns about offshore companies operating without proper oversight and the potential for illicit activities. Calacanis advocates for onshoring stablecoin operations and implementing strict know-your-customer (KYC) requirements. The hosts also discuss the two-tiered regulatory system proposed in the Genius Act, with federal regulations for stablecoins with over $10 billion in assets under management (AUM) and state-level regulations for smaller stablecoins. They express concerns that some states may have overly loose standards, leading to potential risks. The discussion touches on the potential for interest-bearing stablecoin accounts and the impact on Tether's revenue model.

Polymarket and Prediction Markets

The hosts discuss Polymarket, a prediction market platform, and its potential for hedging and insurance. They highlight a market on Polymarket that predicts which company will have the best AI model on June 30th, with Google currently in the lead. The hosts discuss the importance of defining how a market will be resolved and suggest potential markets related to self-driving cars and robo taxis. Calacanis explains how placing a wager on an outcome can serve as a hedge against other investments or risks.

Startup Marketplace Creation

The hosts discuss how to build a marketplace from scratch, addressing the chicken-and-egg problem of getting early momentum. Calacanis shares the story of Door Dash's early days, where the founders manually fulfilled orders to create the illusion of a functioning marketplace. He suggests starting with a specific geographic area and vertical, such as pool cleaning, and manually recruiting suppliers. He also recommends using affordable Google search ads to attract initial customers. The hosts discuss various marketing tactics, including door-hanging flyers, emailing people on Nextdoor, and infiltrating relevant online groups. Calacanis emphasizes the importance of doing the hard work and hacking the inventory and supply side.

SAS Advice Contradictions

The hosts discuss the contradictory nature of much of the advice given to startups. They note that people often attribute success to specific techniques when it may simply be due to market demand. Calacanis advises founders to write down all the advice they receive and then choose the path that best suits their situation. He emphasizes the importance of having the best team possible, maintaining product velocity, and understanding and delighting customers. He argues that most startup advice can be categorized into these three core principles.

Conclusion

The episode covers a wide range of topics, from the personal news of Scott Adams' illness to the latest developments in AI, autonomous driving, and stablecoin regulation. The hosts provide valuable insights and actionable advice for founders and investors, emphasizing the importance of innovation, competition, and customer focus. They also highlight the need for ethical considerations and responsible regulation in emerging technologies.

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