I just SOLD
By Financial Education
Key Concepts
- Portfolio Growth: Significant increase in portfolio value, from $1.2 million to nearly $4.2 million in three years.
- Bull Market Success: Highlighting widespread investor success (six, seven, and eight-figure portfolios) during a strong market run.
- Yield vs. Growth: The dilemma of cashing out for safe, high-yield income versus continuing to invest for higher potential growth.
- Palantir (PLTR) Stock: Discussion of its rapid ascent, future potential, and the decision to sell a significant portion due to valuation concerns and timing uncertainty.
- Tesla (TSLA) Stock: Analysis of its weak fundamentals, declining demand, and its use as a hedging instrument against market downturns.
- Market Timing and Hedging: Strategies for protecting a portfolio during uncertain market conditions, particularly in Q4.
- Long-Term Investing Philosophy: Emphasis on building a portfolio for long-term pride and wealth creation, not just short-term gains.
- Value and Dividend Stocks: Shifting focus towards these sectors during frothy market conditions.
- Charitable Giving: The speaker's intention to donate his wealth to society rather than passing it to his children.
- Hedge Fund Ambitions: Future plans to establish a hedge fund with substantial personal capital.
- Private Stock Group: Changes to entry requirements, including a net worth threshold.
Main Topics and Key Points
Portfolio Performance and Market Sentiment
- Current Portfolio Value: The speaker's public account has grown to nearly $4.2 million, a significant increase from $1.2 million three years prior.
- Investor Success: The current bull market has led to many investors achieving all-time highs in their portfolios. Specifically, 10 individuals in the private stock group hit seven figures, and another 10 hit six figures in the past week.
- Market Stages: The speaker categorizes market participants' achievements based on their investment size: smaller investors are moving from four figures to five figures, while larger investors are reaching six, seven, and eight figures.
- X Post Highlight: A post on X (formerly Twitter) highlighted that cashing out the $4.2 million portfolio and placing it in a high-yield savings account at 3.7% would yield $154,000 annually (pre-tax). This is contrasted with a 10% portfolio increase generating over $410,000.
The "Yield King" Dilemma: Cashing Out vs. Continued Investment
- The Temptation: The speaker acknowledges the temptation to sell everything and live off the interest from a high-yield savings account or treasuries, especially when seeing substantial annual income potential.
- Personal Motivation: The core argument against cashing out is the speaker's deep enjoyment of the "game of money" and investing. He likens it to playing a video game like Madden, where the challenge and continuous improvement are the primary motivators, not just winning the Super Bowl.
- "Game of Money" Analogy: The speaker emphasizes that for him, investing is not stressful but fun. He enjoys the market's volatility, including crashes and corrections. This enjoyment is the driving force behind not seeking a risk-free income.
- Long-Term Vision: The speaker is not focused on the current $4.2 million but is already planning for $8 million, indicating a long-term growth mindset.
- Future Philanthropy: The speaker's ultimate goal is to give back to society through charity, not to pass his wealth to his children. He believes his children will have the knowledge and connections to build their own wealth if they desire.
- Hedge Fund Aspirations: In his 40s, the speaker plans to start a hedge fund, intending to invest $50 million to $100 million of his own capital. This is a medium-term goal, distinct from his current focus on running his existing ventures.
Investment Decisions: Selling Palantir and Hedging with Tesla
Selling Palantir (PLTR)
- Reason for Selling: The speaker "got spooked" and sold 100% of his Palantir position in the public account, incurring a small loss of over $1,500.
- Underlying Concern: While Palantir is experiencing massive revenue and earnings growth, the speaker is concerned about the timing of its revenue growth deceleration. He believes the stock will be "obliterated" (potentially 50% downside) once this deceleration begins, but he cannot pinpoint the exact quarter.
- Potential Upside vs. Risk: He acknowledges that if Palantir reports strong revenue growth (e.g., mid-to-high 50s percent), the stock could easily reach $200, $250, or even $275. However, he doesn't want to endure the potential pain of holding through a significant downturn, especially with leveraged positions.
- Valuation vs. Momentum: The speaker notes that Palantir trades at a "ridiculous valuation" with a high forward P/E ratio (well into the 300s). However, he recognizes that the current market is a "Momo market" (Momentum market) where valuations are secondary to momentum.
- Data Analysis (Thousandx.com): The speaker uses his platform, Thousandx.com, to project Palantir's future performance.
- Bull Case (10-20% probability): 40% average revenue growth, 50% net income growth (2026-2029), 120-140 P/E, 42% net income margins, resulting in an estimated 20% CAGR.
- Base Case (More Realistic): Revenue growth of 40% (2026) down to 30% (2029), 50% net income growth down to 35%, 37% net income margins, 85-100 P/E. Under this scenario, the speaker projects no return over the next four years.
- Bear Case: Revenue growth from 40% (2026) down to 25% (2029), 45% net income growth down to 30%, 37% net income margins, 70-80 P/E. This also results in a negative return.
- Decision Rationale: Based on his projections, the speaker believes it makes sense to "cash" out of Palantir shares because the numbers do not support a strong return in the medium term (2026-2029). He still holds a small position (1,000 shares) in the public account and some in the Patreon portfolio as a small hedge against his bull case playing out.
Hedging with TSLZ (Inverse Tesla ETF)
- Purpose of the Hedge: The speaker used the proceeds from selling Palantir to complete his hedge in the public account with TSLZ, an inverse ETF. This represents a 1% hedge of his $4.2 million portfolio, approximately $43,000.
- Q4 Hedging Strategy: He typically hedges his public account with 1-3% in Q4 of each year.
- Rationale for Tesla as a Hedge Target:
- Weak Fundamentals: Tesla's fundamentals are considered poor: embarrassing revenue growth (potentially negative), plummeting EPS (down over 30% in the latest quarter), and awful margins.
- Declining Demand: Google Trends data shows a massive downtrend in searches for Tesla and its models (Model 3, Model Y), especially after tax credits expired. Demand is also weak in Europe and declining significantly in China (market share down from 16% to 7%).
- Robo-Taxi Uncertainty: The robo-taxi initiative is years away from generating significant revenue or profit. Tesla is still in the early stages of removing safety drivers, and the process of regulatory approval and market adoption is long and complex, with Waymo being significantly ahead.
- Valuation vs. Momentum: While Tesla, like Palantir, has momentum in a risk-on market and trades at a high valuation, its lack of fundamental backing makes it a more attractive target for a downside hedge.
- Risk of Hedging: The speaker acknowledges that if the market continues to be "risk on" for the next month or two, his TSLZ hedge could result in significant losses (15-25%).
- "Markets Can Remain Irrational Longer Than You Can Remain Solvent": This quote underscores why he hedges with a small percentage rather than going "big big big money" against Tesla. He prefers to bet on "sure things" with attractive valuations and future growth.
- Hedging Strategy: He emphasizes going "small" with hedges because timing the market's downturn is uncertain. If the hedge is correct and the market (e.g., NASDAQ) drops 10-15% in the next month or two, he expects a 50% profit on the hedge, which he would then flip into long positions.
Strategies for a Continuously Rising Market
- Taking Profits: When projected returns for a stock no longer make sense based on CAGR (Compound Annual Growth Rate) analysis, it's crucial to take profits, even if it's difficult. Selling is a part of the game, though less frequent than buying for long-term investors.
- Focus on Value and Dividend Stocks: In a "frothy" market (high forward P/E on the S&P 500), shifting capital towards value and dividend stocks becomes more advantageous. During momentum-driven markets, these sectors are often overlooked.
- Example: Palantir and Tesla were down 70-80% in late 2022 when the market was down, and no one wanted them. Now, they are highly sought after. Conversely, many dividend and value stocks have performed poorly since 2020 because investors are chasing momentum.
- Benefit of Dividends: Dividend stocks provide income during market downturns, which can then be used to buy growth stocks at cheaper valuations (e.g., buying Palantir at $7, Tesla at $100, Shopify at $25, Netflix at $170 in 2022).
- Advanced Hedging for "Big Dogs": For experienced investors with large portfolios, advanced hedging strategies like buying puts (in-the-money, out-of-the-money), selling covered calls, using inverse ETFs (like TSLZ), or leveraged inverse ETFs are options. However, this is considered advanced and not for everyone.
Detailed Analysis of Palantir Projections (Thousandx.com)
- Bull Case (10-20% Probability):
- Revenue Growth: 40% average (2026-2029)
- Net Income Growth: 50% average (2026-2029)
- P/E Ratio: 120-140
- Net Income Margins: 42%
- Projected CAGR: ~20%
- Base Case (Realistic):
- Revenue Growth: 40% (2026), 38% (2027), 35% (2028), 30% (2029)
- Net Income Growth: 50% (2026), 40% (2027), 38% (2028), 35% (2029)
- Net Income Margins: 37% (by 2029)
- P/E Ratio: 85-100
- Projected Return: No return over the next four years. This is the primary reason for selling the majority of shares.
- Bear Case:
- Revenue Growth: 40% (2026) down to 25% (2029)
- Net Income Growth: 45% (2026) down to 30% (2029)
- Net Income Margins: 37% (by 2029)
- P/E Ratio: 70-80
- Projected Return: Negative return.
- Conclusion on Palantir: The speaker reiterates that the numbers for 2026-2029 do not set up well for Palantir stock, making it a "dead money stock" unless the low-probability bull case materializes.
Long-Term Portfolio Building
- Focus on Long-Term Pride: Investors should build portfolios they will be proud of years from now (3, 5, 7 years), not just for the next few months.
- Capturing Wealth-Building Opportunities: The market offers incredible wealth-building opportunities that require sustained focus.
Private Stock Group Updates
- New Net Worth Requirement: Starting next year, new members will need a minimum net worth of $100,000 to join the private stock group. Those under this threshold are advised to join ASAP.
- Benefits of Membership: Access to all course curriculums, private Discord chat, Thousandx.com, and the ability to track the speaker's moves in his $4 million+ Fidelity account.
Important Examples, Case Studies, or Real-World Applications
- Palantir Stock Performance: The speaker's prediction of Palantir stock going from $20 to $200 in less than two years, which is now nearing $200 ($189 close), is a key example of his successful stock calls.
- Madden Franchise Mode: Used as an analogy for his personal drive and enjoyment of the "game of money," going beyond just winning to achieving perfection and setting records.
- Real Estate Progression: The speaker details his personal journey of acquiring progressively larger and more valuable properties, from a one-bedroom apartment to building a new house and planning for future luxury properties (Summit Club, Newport Coast, Steinway Tower). This illustrates his wealth accumulation and long-term vision.
- YouTube Channel Growth: Having four silver play buttons (indicating four channels with over 100,000 subscribers) and recently hitting the fifth with his reaction channel, demonstrating success across multiple platforms.
- Tesla Demand Decline: The use of Google Trends data for Tesla and its models to illustrate declining consumer interest.
- Waymo vs. Tesla Robo-Taxi: Comparing Waymo's established operational presence in several cities with Tesla's nascent robo-taxi development to highlight the long road ahead for Tesla.
- Berkshire Hathaway Stock: Discussed as an example of a stock that may experience a "rerating" upon the departure of a legendary CEO (Warren Buffett), losing its "Buffett premium."
- Meta (2022) and Other Stocks: Mentioned as examples of when the speaker would go "big" on a position, implying significant investment during periods of attractive valuation and strong fundamentals.
- Buying Dips: The hypothetical scenario of buying Palantir at $7, Tesla at $100, Shopify at $25, and Netflix at $170 in 2022, illustrating the benefit of having capital available during market downturns, potentially fueled by dividend income.
Step-by-Step Processes, Methodologies, or Frameworks
- Portfolio Growth Tracking: The speaker continuously monitors and reports on his public account's value, highlighting its growth trajectory.
- Decision-Making Framework for Selling:
- Projected Numbers Analysis: Run projections (e.g., CAGR) for a stock's future returns.
- Evaluate Return Profile: If the projected CAGR does not indicate an attractive return, consider selling.
- Take Profits: Execute the sale, even if emotionally difficult, to reallocate capital.
- Hedging Strategy (Q4):
- Assess Market Conditions: Identify potential risks and opportunities in the upcoming quarter.
- Determine Hedge Percentage: Allocate 1-3% of the portfolio for hedging in Q4.
- Select Hedging Instrument: Choose an appropriate instrument (e.g., inverse ETF like TSLZ).
- Execute Hedge: Implement the hedge to mitigate downside risk.
- Monitor and Adjust: Review the hedge's performance and consider flipping it into long positions if market conditions change favorably.
- Valuation Analysis (Thousandx.com):
- Input Data: Enter company-specific data (revenue growth, net income growth, margins, P/E).
- Develop Scenarios: Create bull, base, and bear cases with varying assumptions.
- Project Future Performance: Forecast key financial metrics and stock valuations.
- Calculate CAGR/Returns: Determine the expected compound annual growth rate for each scenario.
- Make Investment Decisions: Use the projected returns to inform buy/sell decisions.
Key Arguments or Perspectives Presented
- The "Game of Money" is Enjoyable: The speaker argues that for him, investing is a source of enjoyment and challenge, not stress, which is why he doesn't opt for a risk-free income.
- Long-Term Vision Trumps Short-Term Gains: Building a portfolio for long-term pride and wealth creation is more important than chasing quick profits.
- Valuation Matters, Even in Momentum Markets: While momentum drives short-term price action, the speaker maintains that fundamental valuations are crucial for long-term investment success.
- Timing the Market is Difficult and Risky: The speaker advocates for small, strategic hedges rather than large bets against specific stocks due to the unpredictability of market timing.
- Fundamentals Drive Long-Term Value: Stocks with strong fundamentals are more likely to succeed in the long run, even if they are currently out of favor.
- Philanthropy as a Legacy: The speaker's intention to donate his wealth to society rather than his children is a strong personal perspective on legacy and responsibility.
- Strategic Hedging is Essential for Risk Management: Even in a bull market, having a hedge can protect against unforeseen downturns and provide opportunities to capitalize on market shifts.
Notable Quotes or Significant Statements
- "Congratulations to everybody out there hitting all-time highs. I'm sure a lot of you guys hit all-time highs in your portfolio literally today."
- "This is what happens when you go on one of these big bull runs, man. People are reaching six figures, seven figures, eight figures, and then smaller investors are reaching five figures, right?"
- "If I sell it all right now, put it into a high yield savings account, I'd make $154,000 a year at 3.7%."
- "Every 10% the portfolio goes up now is $410,000 plus dollars."
- "Palunteer stock is still on an absolute tear."
- "Why don't I just sell everything, cash out, and become a yield king, right? And just, you know, buy treasuries, get 4% on treasuries, and just dip. We'll talk about that."
- "It's a game, right? Game of money. Uh for me, I love the game. I love playing this game, right? And stacking the numbers up, building the numbers up. It's very entertaining to me. It's fun."
- "I'm not even thinking about where the public count's at right now. I'm not even thinking about 5 million. You know what I'm thinking about? I'm thinking about 8 million."
- "When I'm bored with the game, I'll stop playing the game. And as of right now, I am not bored with the game. I love this game."
- "I love the crashes. I love the corrections. I love the great markets, the bad markets, the kangaroo markets. I love it all."
- "At the end of the day, it's going to go right back to society. It's going to go to charity."
- "I always thought about starting a hedge fund in my 40s."
- "I got spooked. I sold out of my Palunteer hedge."
- "Palanteer's gonna stock is going to get obliterated. Obliterated like 50% downside, but but I don't know exactly when that is."
- "We're in a Momo market right now. What's a Momo market? A Momo market is valuations don't matter. Momentum matters."
- "Markets can stay can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."
- "When you run your projected numbers... and at the end of the day the KAGRA does not say a very attractive return on your base case, you got to cash, you've got to take profits in that stock."
- "When the market starts to get really frothy... Focus more in dividend stocks and value stocks. That's where your best opportunities are."
- "Build a portfolio you're going to be proud of years from now. Not just proud of for the next two months, the next, you know, uh, year and a half or something like that."
Technical Terms, Concepts, or Specialized Vocabulary
- All-time highs: The highest price a stock or portfolio has ever reached.
- Seven figures/Six figures/Five figures/Four figures: Refers to the magnitude of money, e.g., $1,000,000+, $100,000+, $10,000+, $1,000+.
- Bull run: A period of sustained price increases in a financial market.
- High-yield savings account: A savings account that offers a higher interest rate than standard savings accounts.
- Treasuries: Debt securities issued by the U.S. Department of the Treasury, considered very safe investments.
- CAGR (Compound Annual Growth Rate): The average annual rate of return over a specified period longer than one year.
- P/E Ratio (Price-to-Earnings Ratio): A valuation ratio of a company's current share price compared to its per-share earnings.
- Forward P/E: A P/E ratio calculated using estimated future earnings.
- Net Income Growth: The percentage increase in a company's profit over a period.
- Net Income Margins: The percentage of revenue that remains after all expenses have been deducted.
- Momo Market (Momentum Market): A market where asset prices are driven by strong upward or downward trends, often disregarding fundamental valuations.
- Hedge: An investment or strategy designed to reduce the risk of adverse price movements in an asset.
- Inverse ETF: An exchange-traded fund designed to move in the opposite direction of a market index or asset.
- Leverage: Using borrowed capital to increase the potential return of an investment.
- EPS (Earnings Per Share): A company's profit divided by the number of outstanding shares.
- Gap Basis/Non-GAAP Basis: Refers to accounting methods for reporting earnings, with non-GAAP excluding certain one-time or non-recurring items.
- Frothy Market: A market characterized by high valuations and speculative investor behavior, often seen as a precursor to a correction.
- Dividend Stocks: Stocks of companies that regularly distribute a portion of their earnings to shareholders as dividends.
- Value Stocks: Stocks that appear to be trading below their intrinsic value based on fundamental analysis.
- Puts (Put Options): Financial contracts that give the owner the right, but not the obligation, to sell an underlying asset at a specified price on or before a certain date.
- Covered Calls: A strategy where an investor sells call options on a stock they already own.
- Inverse ETFs: ETFs designed to profit from a decline in an underlying index or asset.
- Bull Case/Base Case/Bear Case: Different scenarios used in financial modeling to project potential outcomes for an investment.
Logical Connections Between Different Sections and Ideas
The video flows logically by first establishing the current positive market sentiment and the speaker's personal success, then addressing a fundamental question about cashing out. This leads into a discussion of specific investment decisions (selling Palantir, hedging with Tesla) that illustrate his decision-making process. Finally, it offers strategies for navigating a rising market and reinforces his long-term investment philosophy and future aspirations.
- Introduction (Portfolio Growth & Market Sentiment) -> Core Question (Yield King Dilemma): The impressive portfolio growth sets the stage for the question of whether to continue investing or secure gains.
- Yield King Dilemma -> Personal Philosophy: The speaker's explanation of why he enjoys the "game of money" directly answers why he wouldn't cash out, linking his personal motivation to his investment strategy.
- Personal Philosophy -> Specific Investment Decisions (Palantir & Tesla): His long-term, enjoyment-driven approach informs his decisions to sell Palantir (due to unfavorable projections) and hedge with Tesla (due to weak fundamentals and timing uncertainty).
- Specific Investment Decisions -> Market Navigation Strategies: The Palantir and Tesla examples serve as practical illustrations for the broader strategies discussed for a rising market (taking profits, focusing on value/dividends, hedging).
- Market Navigation Strategies -> Long-Term Vision & Future Plans: The discussion of portfolio building and future aspirations (hedge fund, charity) provides a concluding perspective on the ultimate purpose of his investment activities.
Data, Research Findings, or Statistics Mentioned
- Portfolio Value: $1.2 million (3 years ago) to nearly $4.2 million (current).
- High-Yield Savings Account Yield: 3.7%.
- Annual Income from Savings: $154,000 (pre-tax) if $4.2 million were in a 3.7% yield account.
- 10% Portfolio Increase Value: $410,000+.
- Palantir Stock Price: $20 (less than two years ago) to near $200 ($189 close).
- Palantir Shares Held: 2,478% increase on 100,000 shares (this seems to be a misstatement in the transcript, likely referring to percentage gain on a specific number of shares or a typo). The speaker later mentions holding 1,000 shares in the public account and some in the Patreon portfolio.
- Private Stock Group Members: 2,689 members.
- Net Worth Requirement for Private Group: $100,000.
- Tesla EPS Decline: Down 30%+ quarter-over-quarter.
- Tesla Market Share in China: Declined from 16% to 7%.
- Waymo Operational Cities: Phoenix, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Austin, Atlanta.
- Waymo Testing Cities: Miami, Washington D.C., Tokyo.
- S&P 500 Forward P/E: Elevated (indicating a frothy market).
- Palantir Revenue Growth Projections: 40% (2026), 38% (2027), 35% (2028), 30% (2029) in base case.
- Palantir Net Income Growth Projections: 50% (2026), 40% (2027), 38% (2028), 35% (2029) in base case.
- Palantir Net Income Margins: 37% by 2029 in base case.
- Palantir P/E Ratio Projections: 85-100 in base case.
- Palantir CAGR Projection: ~20% in bull case, no return in base case.
- Tesla Stock Price (Historical): $7-8 (late 2022), ~$100 (early 2023).
- Palantir Stock Price (Historical): $7-8 (late 2022).
- Market Downturns (Historical): NASDAQ down 35%+, S&P 500 down 25%+ (end of 2022).
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Brief Synthesis/Conclusion of the Main Takeaways
The speaker's current success in a booming market is attributed to his long-term, enjoyment-driven approach to investing, which he views as a "game." While acknowledging the temptation of secure, high-yield income, he prioritizes the thrill of growth and wealth accumulation. His recent decisions to sell Palantir, based on unfavorable future projections despite current momentum, and to hedge with Tesla, due to its weak fundamentals, exemplify his analytical and risk-aware strategy. He advocates for taking profits when returns diminish, shifting focus to value and dividend stocks in frothy markets, and employing strategic hedging to navigate uncertainty. Ultimately, his vision extends beyond personal wealth to significant philanthropic contributions and future ventures like a hedge fund, underscoring a philosophy of continuous growth and societal impact.
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