How to make a job switch without starting from zero | Work It (ft. UOB's Ivan Aw)

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Key Concepts

• Career Transition: The process of moving from one job or role to another, often involving significant change.
• Comfort Zone: A psychological state where individuals feel safe and at ease, but which can limit growth.
• Push Factors: Reasons that compel someone to leave their current situation (e.g., dissatisfaction, lack of growth).
• Pull Factors: Opportunities or attractions that draw someone to a new situation (e.g., better prospects, new challenges).
• Opportunity Cost: The potential benefits missed or sacrificed when choosing one alternative over another.
• Better You Pivot Program: A UOB internal program designed to facilitate career transitions within the bank.
• Career Coach: A professional who provides guidance and support during career changes.
• AI Tools (e.g., Copilot): Artificial intelligence applications that can assist with productivity and tasks.
• Growth Mindset: A belief that abilities and intelligence can be developed through dedication and hard work.
• Trailblazer: An individual who pioneers a new path or approach, inspiring others.

Summary

This episode of the Work It Podcast, brought to you by UOB, features a discussion on career transitions and features guest Ivan, who recently made a significant pivot within UOB.

The Challenge of Career Change

Ned and Gerald open by discussing the common parental perspective that job hopping is undesirable, contrasting it with the reality for younger generations where shorter tenures are more normalized. They highlight the internal conflict individuals face: the comfort of staying put versus the potential for greater opportunities elsewhere. The hosts emphasize that change, while often difficult, can present valuable opportunities, especially in the face of evolving technology and economic landscapes. They note that many people struggle with change, particularly as they age, and express the importance of understanding the transition process and identifying factors that make change worthwhile.

Ivan's Strategic Pivot

The podcast introduces Ivan, who previously worked in personal financial services at UOB for 16 years. Despite being experienced and respected in his role, he felt a need to step out of his comfort zone for further career growth. He seized the opportunity presented by UOB's "Better You Pivot Program" to transition into private banking marketing, a growing sector, where he is now a Vice President.

The Decision-Making Process

Ivan explains that after 16 years, he felt a need for a "stretch" and to explore his potential beyond his established role. He acknowledges the hesitation that comes with leaving a position where one is considered an "expert," citing the opportunity cost and the reputation built over years. However, he ultimately asked himself if he had "more to offer." This motivation stemmed from a desire for personal growth and to contribute more significantly to the company, a perspective Ned highlights as admirable, contrasting it with those who only act when directed by their superiors.

Reactions and Confidence Building

Ivan's colleagues were surprised by his decision, given his long tenure. However, they also understood his potential for further development. His previous boss was particularly encouraging. Ivan was drawn to the private banking role due to its synergy with his existing skills, but he was initially hesitant about the "drastic leap" from mass banking to the higher-segment private banking. His confidence significantly increased after an interview with the Head of Private Bank Commercial Banking, who affirmed that Ivan possessed the required skill sets, boosting his confidence from 50% to 80%.

The "Better You Pivot Program" Experience

Ivan describes the "Better You Pivot Program" as a transformative experience, exceeding his expectations of mere standard courses and product training. A key element was the assignment of a career coach. Initially, he questioned the need for a coach when he had a supervisor, but he soon realized its value. The coach provided a "safe space" to discuss challenges and admit to not knowing how to do things, which can be difficult to convey to a direct supervisor. The coach acted as a neutral party, offering support and guidance.

The interaction with the coach was described as open, supportive, and even "therapeutic." The coach's approach was not to dictate but to understand Ivan's past experiences, strengths, and weaknesses, and also to gather insights from his supervisor. The program involved progressive sessions over a year, including online courses and in-person classes, to ease the transition.

Key Program Achievements and AI Integration

During the program, Ivan highlights the central role of AI tools, specifically Microsoft Copilot. He likens it to a "super intern" that can perform tasks 24/7, significantly boosting work productivity. He found it invaluable for asking questions without fear of judgment, which is crucial when learning in a new role.

Realizing Success and Overcoming Doubts

Ivan felt things started falling into place in the last few months, with his supervisor expressing increased comfort and confidence in his abilities. He is now spearheading projects, moving beyond the initial hand-holding. The biggest change he observed in himself was a significant increase in confidence. In the initial months, he felt "lost" and questioned if he had taken too big a leap. However, he was driven by a "mission mindset" and the desire to be a "trailblazer" for others within UOB, demonstrating that significant career switches are possible and showcasing the talent within the bank. He hopes his move will inspire other colleagues in personal financial services to consider similar paths.

Advice for Career Changers

Ivan's primary advice for anyone considering a major career change is: "Don't wait for the perfect timing. Make the perfect timing." He reflects on his own 16-year tenure, admitting he waited too long and would change that if he could. He emphasizes taking action rather than delaying.

Continuous Learning and Skill Development

Regarding future career switches, Ivan stresses the indispensable nature of AI tools and the importance of continuous self-improvement. He advocates for proactive learning through external resources like YouTube, in addition to company-offered courses. This initiative must come from personal drive, not just compulsory training. He views skill acquisition as a form of self-improvement rather than solely a means to better pay or a new job. He also shares his inspiring experience attending advanced courses at SMU, highlighting the energy and passion of lecturers and fellow students, which reinforces the transformative power of taking action and engaging in new learning experiences.

Conclusion

The episode concludes with Ned and Gerald congratulating Ivan on his progress and looking forward to his successful completion of the program. They encourage listeners to reach out with work-related questions via email or podcast platforms.