Gold And Silver Price Surge: Is A Pullback Coming?

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Key Concepts

• Gold and Silver Market Update: Current price trends, expectations for future movements, and factors influencing them.
• India's Role in Precious Metals: India's significant consumption of gold and silver in fabricated products and its growing importance in industrial fabrication.
• Inflationary Pressures: Analysis of US Consumer Price Index (CPI) and Producer Price Index (PPI) data, highlighting rising costs in services and energy.
• Interest Rate Policy: Debate on the wisdom of lowering interest rates amidst inflationary pressures versus economic weakness.
• US Dollar Strength: Examination of the dollar's recent decline and its historical strength on a trade-weighted basis.
• Bullion Coin Inventories: Detailed explanation of why bullion coins (like Eagles and Maple Leafs) are not melted down and recycled into bars, and their impact on overall silver supply.
• Silver Supply Dynamics: Discussion of total mined silver, its distribution in various forms (bullion, jewelry, fabricated products), and the implications for price movements.

Market Update: Gold and Silver

Gold Prices:

• Gold has recently reached record highs, trading slightly below $3,700, having previously broken above this level.
• CPM Group's expectation is for continued higher prices, despite the potential for short-term pullbacks.
• The overriding economic and political environment supports this bullish outlook.
• The October COMEX contract is active but most open interest has been rolled into the December contract, suggesting less immediate upward pressure from the October roll.
• Any pullbacks are anticipated to be relatively small and will likely be seen as buying opportunities by investors and speculators.

Silver Prices:

• Silver has been trading around $41-$42.
• Similar to gold, prices are expected to rise.
• Near-term pullbacks to $40 or even $38 are possible but not definitive.
• The overall propensity is towards higher prices due to the political and economic climate.

Platinum and Palladium Prices:

• Platinum: Prices spiked but have since retreated slightly. CPM Group expects prices to drift lower, despite strong speculative demand and inventory building by companies.
• Palladium: Prices also spiked higher due to speculative buying. The expectation is for prices to fall back below $1,200, potentially moving towards $1,100 and lower in the coming months.

India's Significance in Precious Metals

• Gold Consumption: India consumed approximately 17 million ounces of gold in fabricated products last year, representing about 20% of the world's gold content. Initial projections for early 2025 suggested a slight reduction to 16.7 million ounces, but demand has remained strong for both investment and industrial purposes.
• Silver Consumption: India accounts for about 13% of total world fabrication demand for silver, making it the second-largest user after China. This equates to about 127 million ounces. Projections for this year indicated a potential fall to 117 million ounces in fabrication, but investor demand has been robust.
• Shift in Industrial Fabrication: A significant trend is the relocation of industrial fabrication for precious metals (silver, gold, platinum group metals) from East Asia (China), the United States, and Europe to India and South Asia/Southeast Asia.
• Industrial Applications: These regions are crucial for chemical catalysts, chemicals, and electronic precursors used in manufacturing electronics, both domestically and for export. India's importance as a source of fabrication demand for these metals has consequently increased.

Economic Environment: Inflation and Interest Rates

Inflationary Pressures:

• US CPI: Consumer prices have spiked, reaching their highest month-over-month level since December of the previous year and their highest year-over-year level since January of the current year.
• Drivers of CPI Increase: Significant increases in August were observed in the costs of electricity and natural gas due to a hot summer. Strong price increases were also seen across various services, including financial and medical services.
• Offsetting Factors: Petroleum products (gasoline, fuel oil) saw sharp declines (6% or more in August year-over-year), which somewhat moderated the overall CPI increase.
• Producer Price Index (PPI):
  • Final Demand for Goods: Prices have been rising steadily for four months, reaching their highest level since January. This is attributed partly to tariffs and other constraints like labor and financial limitations.
  • Services: The PPI for services has remained relatively flat for about five months and is expected to continue this trend.
• Conclusion on Inflation: Inflationary pressures persist at both the consumer and producer levels, warranting caution regarding interest rate reductions.

Interest Rate Policy Debate:

• Economic Argument for Caution: From an economic standpoint, lowering interest rates at this time is highly debatable due to ongoing inflationary pressures and other economic factors. An argument can be made that rates should remain unchanged.
• Treasury Rates: 90-day Treasury rates have decreased slightly from their peaks, which were comparable to pre-2001 recession levels. They have moved away from the zero-interest-rate policies prevalent since 2009-2010 but remain lower than at any point since the 1980s.
• Argument for Higher Rates: The presence of inflationary pressures, labor shortages, and emerging problems in the US economy suggests that interest rates should not be lowered.
• Counterbalancing Economic Weakness: On the other hand, there is increasing economic weakness, with a potential recession looming in the US, Europe, and possibly Japan and South Korea, or at least very low economic activity and growth.
• Economic Outlook: A strong second quarter is expected to be followed by economic deterioration in the second half of the current year and into 2026.
• Political Expediency: Despite the economic arguments, interest rates are likely to be reduced next week due to political expediency.

US Dollar Performance

• The US dollar has declined by about 7-8% year-to-date.
• However, it remains up approximately 45% from its level at the end of the global financial crisis and sovereign debt crisis in 2011.
• While its purchasing power within the US is being eroded by inflation, the dollar remains relatively strong on a trade-weighted basis.

Silver Bullion Coins and Inventories

Clarification on Bullion Coins:

• The discussion focuses on bullion coins, which exclude formally circulating coins. Many old circulating coins have been refined.
• While several million ounces of silver coins still circulate within the investing community, this is a small fraction of the billions of ounces used in historical circulating coins.
• At its peak, the US Treasury held an enormous amount of silver in circulating coins (estimated at 1-2 billion ounces), most of which has been refined.

Why Bullion Coins Are Not Melted Down:

• Economic Rationale: Bullion coins like US Silver Eagles and Canadian Maple Leafs are generally not melted down and recast into bars because it is not financially sensible for dealers, wholesalers, or refiners.
• Resale Value: These coins can be resold for more per ounce than the price received for a thousand-ounce bar.
• Refining Costs: Refining coins into bars incurs costs (a couple of dollars per ounce) and results in less money per ounce.
• Dealer Strategy: Dealers, wholesalers, and refiners can profit by holding onto these coins and reselling them at a premium, rather than incurring refining costs. They are knowledgeable enough to recognize this financial advantage.

Historical Example (Platinum):

• A past program involving Johnson Matthey platinum in China demonstrated this principle. Platinum was lent to jewelers, who would then melt down bars to create new products. However, when platinum bars with serial numbers and stamps appeared in markets like Hong Kong and Tokyo, it was discovered they were being melted down and recast, making them unidentifiable.
• In Los Angeles, more platinum was sold as highly refined, unidentifiable bars than the US Mint had produced as Platinum Eagles. This was economically illogical because Platinum Eagles carried a premium over good delivery bars, which in turn had a premium over unidentifiable refined platinum. It did not make sense to melt down Eagles to sell them as generic refined platinum.
• Dealers and refiners intelligently held onto these coins to capture the premium.

Current Data and Premiums (Silver):

• Data from Fidelitrade (a respected bullion dealer) illustrates the pricing differences:
  • Spot Price: Bid $40.99, Ask $41.99 (10-cent spread).
  • Generic Bulk Bullion: Dealers would pay $40.61 (0.9% below spot), as this would be melted down.
  • Silver Eagle: A 2.9% premium on sale (dealer buys from investor) and an 8% premium on resale. This offers a potential 5% profit margin for the dealer by reselling rather than refining.
  • Maple Leaf: As of yesterday, it was at a small discount to spot (7 basis points) on sale but still commanded a 6% premium on resale. Dealers would not melt these down.
  • Generic Bullion Round: Traded at 2% less than spot because it was intended for melting.
• Gold: Gold Eagles might have been at a small discount to spot, and Maple Leafs at a small premium.

Conclusion on Bullion Coin Inventories:

• The 2.5 billion ounces of silver bullion coins produced and sold since the mid-1980s remain predominantly in coin form.
• It does not make economic or financial sense to melt them down.
• Depositories worldwide hold enormous quantities of these silver coins.

Total Silver Supply and Its Implications:

• Refined Silver: There are approximately 6.5 billion ounces of silver in refined form (bullion bars, medallions, and coins). This figure excludes jewelry, silverware, fabricated products (electronics, catalysts, etc.), and scrap lost to history.
• Historical Context (1979): In 1979, there were about 4.5 billion ounces of silver in bullion form (bullion coins were not yet prevalent). This did not prevent the price from rising from $5 to $50.
• Impact on Price: The presence of this bullion may have limited the price from exceeding $50 in 1979, as an additional 200 million ounces of coins and jewelry were sold into the market.
• Post-1979: Even with higher above-ground inventories (around 1.5-1.8 billion ounces of refined bars and coins) after the price peak, the price still reached $50.
• CPM Group's Stance: CPM Group emphasizes that the existence of this bullion does not preclude sharp price increases, as demonstrated twice in the last half-century. However, informed investors must pay attention to these inventory levels.
• Total Mined Silver: An estimated 60 billion ounces of silver have been mined since the beginning of civilization, with about half lost to history. The remaining half is identifiable in bullion (6-12 billion ounces) and in jewelry, decorative items, and religious objects (approximately 18 billion ounces).

Conclusion and Takeaways

The video provides a detailed market update, highlighting bullish sentiment for gold and silver driven by economic and political factors, while anticipating a downward trend for platinum and palladium. India's growing importance as a consumer and fabricator of precious metals is underscored. The analysis of US inflation data suggests persistent price pressures, creating a complex environment for interest rate decisions, where political expediency may override economic prudence. A key takeaway is the clarification on bullion coin inventories, demonstrating that these coins are not recycled into bars due to their higher resale value, meaning a significant portion of silver supply remains in coin form. This existing bullion, while substantial, has not historically prevented sharp price increases and should be considered by informed investors. CPM Group's research, particularly their yearbooks, offers in-depth data on these market dynamics.