Gemini shares sink after reporting wider-than-expected loss in Q3: CNBC Crypto World

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Key Concepts

  • Cryptocurrency Market Downturn: Major cryptocurrencies experienced a decline due to political and economic instability.
  • Gemini's Financial Performance: The crypto exchange reported a wider-than-expected loss in its first quarter as a public company.
  • Coinbase Token Issuance Platform: Coinbase is launching a new platform to facilitate the distribution of new crypto tokens.
  • SoFi's Entry into Crypto: SoFi is now offering cryptocurrency trading, buying, and holding services as a nationally chartered bank.
  • Four-Year Cycle Theory: The traditional four-year cycle for Bitcoin price movements is becoming less relevant.
  • Catalysts for Crypto Growth: Regulatory clarity, interest rate cuts, stablecoin proliferation, and sophisticated financial products are seen as positive drivers.
  • Systemic Risk in Crypto: Past failures due to poor risk management and inter-lending practices are being addressed.
  • M2 Money Supply: Significant creation of M2 money supply is expected to drive asset inflation.

Market Overview and Stock Performance

1. Cryptocurrency Market Downturn:

  • Major cryptocurrencies were trading in the red, a reversal from yesterday's rally fueled by hopes of ending the US government shutdown.
  • As of noon Eastern, Bitcoin dropped to the $13,000 level.
  • Ether fell by 1.25%.
  • Solana's SOL token dropped by over 3%.
  • This downturn occurred despite the Senate passing a bill to end the government shutdown, which was sent to the House. The negotiated deal did not include an extension to Affordable Care Act subsidies, a key Democratic demand, instead deferring a vote on credits to December.
  • A new report from ADP indicated weakness in the labor market, with the four-week moving average of private sector job creation down over 11,000 per week as of October 25th.

2. Crypto-Related Stock Performance:

  • CleanSpark: Shares fell 7.5% around 1 p.m. Eastern after the Bitcoin miner increased its convertible note offering to $1.15 billion. This move reflects a broader trend of miners and AI-focused data infrastructure firms utilizing debt markets for capital.
  • Gemini: Shares slumped significantly, plummeting over 15.5% as of 12:30 p.m. Eastern. This followed the crypto exchange's report of a wider-than-expected loss of $6.67 per share in Q3, compared to analysts' expectations of a $0.324 loss. Q3 was Gemini's first quarter as a publicly traded company, having gone public in September. IPO-related costs contributed to a $159.5 million net loss, despite revenue doubling year-over-year.
  • Coinbase: Shares were trading lower by over 2% as of 12:30 p.m. Eastern.

New Developments in the Crypto Space

1. Coinbase's Token Issuance Platform:

  • Coinbase is launching a platform designed to allow issuers to distribute new crypto tokens.
  • The platform aims to create a balanced and transparent token sales environment for both issuers and users.
  • It will employ algorithms to promote broader distribution of token sales while limiting large purchasers.
  • A key feature is prioritizing "true supporters" by penalizing users who sell their tokens less than 30 days after listing.
  • This initiative is intended to differentiate Coinbase from the 2018 ICO boom, which saw a wave of fundraising followed by a market correction.

2. SoFi's Crypto Trading Debut:

  • SoFi is introducing cryptocurrency trading on its platform.
  • Anthony Noto, CEO of SoFi, stated on CNBC's Squawkbox that the company aims to be a "one-stop shop" for financial services and that crypto was a missing piece for the past two years.
  • Previously, banks were not permitted to offer crypto trading. However, an interpretive letter from the OCC in March of this year made it permissible for banks like SoFi to offer cryptocurrencies.
  • SoFi is launching as the "first and only national bank" to offer the ability to buy, sell, and hold cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana.
  • Noto indicated that SoFi will eventually expand beyond these three cryptocurrencies.
  • Key Differentiators for SoFi:
    • National Charter and Infrastructure: As a nationally chartered bank, SoFi possesses the infrastructure, processes, and financial conditions to provide expected consumer safeguards and scale responsibly.
    • Integrated Financial Ecosystem: SoFi offers a comprehensive suite of services, including checking and savings accounts, borrowing, investing, and now crypto.
    • Interest-Earning Funding: Crypto investments funded through SoFi checking and savings accounts will earn interest.
  • Future Plans: SoFi aims to launch its own stablecoin in January, which will be backed dollar-for-dollar by reserves held in its Fed bank account, eliminating liquidity and credit risks and earning Fed funds.

Expert Outlook: Alexander Bloom of Two Prime

Alexander Bloom, CEO of Two Prime, discussed his outlook on the crypto market through 2025 and beyond.

1. Expectations for the End of 2025 and Beyond:

  • Bloom believes that the traditional four-year cycle for Bitcoin is becoming less relevant.
  • Institutional clients and buyers (e.g., BlackRock ETF holders, public companies) are focused on cash flows and opportunities to acquire more Bitcoin, rather than adhering to cyclical patterns.
  • Despite significant headwinds such as limited liquidity and political/economic instability, Bloom sees these factors resolving to the upside.
  • He notes the strong resilience of Bitcoin amidst uncertainty and anticipates a strong end to the current year and a robust 2026.

2. The Diminishing Relevance of the Four-Year Cycle:

  • Historically, the four-year cycle was driven by Bitcoin's halving events, which drastically reduced the supply of new Bitcoin entering the market, leading to price squeezes.
  • Bloom argues that the ratio of new supply to existing supply has become insignificant, diminishing the halving's impact.
  • The past few years have also seen higher interest rates and tightening liquidity, which constrained market participants accustomed to easier money.
  • However, Bloom anticipates a shift into a rate-cutting cycle and expects a dovish Federal Reserve chair next year.
  • He observes a decrease in volatility and expects it to continue upwards.
  • The composition of Bitcoin buyers has changed, with fewer being anchored to the four-year cycle. The remaining influence is largely psychological.

3. Potential Headwinds for 2026:

  • Geopolitical and Economic Instability: Major wars or escalations (e.g., with Russia) and significant economic downturns or failures (e.g., in mortgages) are considered major risks. Bitcoin, being a 24/7 market, is often an early indicator and hit hardest during such crises.
  • Systemic Risk within the Digital Asset Industry: While past failures like Three Arrows Capital and BlockFi stemmed from risky inter-lending practices and poor risk management, Bloom believes that lessons have been learned. Two Prime, as a large Bitcoin-backed lender, does not rehypothecate or trade Bitcoin for spreads, mitigating these risks.
  • Leverage in the Lending Market: Current leverage in the lending market is comparable to the peak of the 2021-2022 cycle, but the market cap of digital assets is double. This suggests more room for leverage before issues arise, provided risk management is sound.

4. Positive Catalysts for 2026:

  • Regulatory Clarity: Increased regulatory clarity provides comfort for businesses and institutional investors, enabling the creation of new products and services.
    • Schwab is expected to offer Bitcoin buying in accounts to retail clients in the first half of next year.
    • JPMorgan is reportedly starting to offer loans against Bitcoin.
    • A safer regulatory environment is seen as favorable for Bitcoin.
  • Interest Rate Environment: While rates may not fall as low as during the COVID era, a relative decrease (e.g., from 4% to 3.75%) still signifies increasing liquidity, which is a strong positive.
  • Proliferation of Stablecoins: Stablecoins are expected to drive broader adoption of assets within the digital asset ecosystem.
  • Sophisticated Products and Companies:
    • The industry is seeing more sophisticated financial products beyond simple loans, including structured products, collars, and reduced margin calls.
    • On the trading side, Bitcoin-based yield products are emerging.
    • Intense competition within the Bitcoin treasury space among public companies is driving innovation and the development of new, sophisticated products that attract new clients and allow existing ones to increase investment.
  • M2 Money Supply: Bloom highlights that 50% of all M2 money supply globally was created in the last five years. This excess liquidity is expected to flow into assets like real estate, stocks, and cryptocurrencies, driving up their valuations.

5. Notable Quotes:

  • Alexander Bloom: "I think a lot of people had been anchored in this expectation we're in a four-year cycle. And I think that's starting to prove out that that's not the case."
  • Alexander Bloom: "The market has really changed. Our institutional clients and buyers of Black Rockck ETFs or public companies we work with, they they don't care about if there's a four-year cycle or not. They're interested in cash flows and ways to buy more Bitcoin whenever they can."
  • Alexander Bloom: "I think we have now entered into a rate cutting cycle. I expect we'll have a dovish new Fed chair coming next year."
  • Alexander Bloom: "I would say the two main things are geopolitical and economic instability."
  • Alexander Bloom: "I think 50% of all the M2 money supply in the world was created in the last five years that that money just has to go somewhere and I think it's elevated all assets."
  • Alexander Bloom: "There's greater clarity for the industry as a whole."
  • Alexander Bloom: "Whether it goes down from 1% to 75 bips or from 4% down to 3 375 bips, it's still increasing liquidity."

Conclusion

The crypto market is navigating a period of volatility influenced by macroeconomic and political factors. While traditional cyclical theories are losing traction, new institutional interest, regulatory clarity, and the increasing sophistication of financial products are creating a more robust ecosystem. Companies like Gemini are facing financial challenges, while others like Coinbase and SoFi are innovating with new platforms and services. Experts like Alexander Bloom are optimistic about the long-term prospects, citing the influx of liquidity from expanded money supply and the development of more sophisticated financial instruments as key drivers for future growth, provided systemic and geopolitical risks are managed.

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