Fed's policy and inflation worries are concerning, says Wells Fargo Securities' Schumacher

CNBC TelevisionAbout 4 min readMay 29, 2025Watch original
THE SUMMARYAI-generated

Key Concepts:

  • Federal Reserve (The Fed) policy and interest rate decisions
  • Inflation concerns and the impact of tariffs
  • Treasury yields (short-term vs. long-term)
  • Bond market dynamics (US vs. Japan)
  • Economic cycle and potential for a "harder landing"
  • Real yields and their influence on Fed policy

1. Federal Reserve (The Fed) Policy and Inflation Concerns:

  • The Fed is concerned about the uncertainty caused by tariffs and trade policies, fearing they could rekindle inflation.
  • The Fed believes inflation could remain elevated for a longer period than the market anticipates.
  • Due to these concerns, the Fed is expected to remain on hold, with no immediate plans for interest rate cuts.
  • The Fed's minutes from this month's meeting indicated that it may face "difficult trade offs" if President Trump's tariffs rekindle inflation.
  • Michael Schumacher suggests that the market is pricing in a very optimistic view of inflation, expecting it to be high for about a year and then return to normal levels. He believes this is too optimistic.

2. Treasury Yields and Bond Market Dynamics:

  • There's a divergence between short-term and long-term Treasury bonds.
  • Schumacher anticipates that yields on shorter-term bonds (5 years and under) may fall slightly.
  • However, there's less appetite for longer-term debt (30-40 years), both in Japan (as evidenced by a lackluster Japanese auction) and in the US.
  • Concerns about government spending and the large supply of bonds are contributing to the lack of demand for long-term Treasuries.
  • Schumacher advises avoiding the long end of the yield curve and instead recommends buying 3-5 year securities.
  • The Japanese bond auction last week was the worst one since the late 1980s.

3. Timing of Potential Fed Rate Cuts:

  • Schumacher believes the Fed is likely to wait until late in the year (potentially the fourth quarter) before making any significant moves.
  • The Fed's incentive is to "wait, wait, wait" and then potentially implement a larger rate cut when they eventually act.
  • The Fed wants to see evidence that inflation has peaked before becoming more aggressive with easing monetary policy.

4. Global Government Spending and Bond Market Implications:

  • A common thread among governments globally is increased spending.
  • Bond markets are facing the challenge of absorbing this increased supply of debt.
  • Investors are demanding higher yields to compensate for the increased risk and supply.
  • Schumacher views this as a "bad omen" for the bond market.

5. Impact of Higher Yields on Markets:

  • Higher yields, particularly on the 10-year Treasury, could act as a cap or restraint on market performance.
  • While Schumacher doesn't expect yields to "go crazy," he sees them as a headwind for the market.

6. Economic Cycle and Inflation Outlook:

  • The market's current pricing of inflation seems "awfully optimistic."
  • Even a slight lingering effect of inflation could make investors nervous.
  • The Fed wants to see evidence that inflation has peaked, even if it's still elevated.

7. Potential for a "Big" Fed Rate Cut:

  • If the Fed does cut rates, Schumacher believes they will "go big" due to the current high level of fed funds (above 4%) and high real yields.
  • Powell has indicated that the Fed is closely monitoring real yields.

8. Scenarios Where the Fed Remains on Hold:

  • If inflation doesn't show signs of peaking, or if tariffs remain in place for an extended period, the Fed may remain on hold.
  • Continued high government spending could also lead the Fed to stay put.
  • In such scenarios, yields, particularly on the 30-year Treasury, could rise to the "mid to high fives."

9. Technical Terms and Concepts:

  • Treasury Yields: The return an investor receives from holding a U.S. Treasury bond.
  • Inflation Swaps: Financial contracts used to hedge against or speculate on future inflation rates.
  • Real Yields: The nominal yield of a bond minus the expected rate of inflation.
  • Fed Funds Rate: The target rate that the Federal Reserve wants banks to charge one another for the overnight lending of reserves.
  • Basis Points: One hundredth of one percent, used to denote changes in interest rates or yields.

10. Synthesis/Conclusion:

Michael Schumacher's analysis suggests a cautious outlook for the bond market and the broader economy. The Fed is likely to remain on hold due to concerns about inflation and the impact of tariffs. While short-term Treasury yields may decline slightly, long-term yields are expected to face upward pressure due to increased government spending and a lack of investor appetite. The market's current pricing of inflation appears optimistic, and even a slight lingering effect could trigger nervousness. If the Fed eventually cuts rates, it's likely to be a significant move. Investors should be wary of the long end of the yield curve and consider focusing on shorter-term securities.

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