Ex-Trump adviser: Current economy makes you 'feel proud to be an American'
By Fox Business
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Key Concepts
- Tariffs and Free Trade: The discussion revolves around the strategic use of tariffs by political leaders, contrasting ideological free trade stances with practical application.
- Economic Policy and Growth: The impact of deregulation, lower taxes, energy policy, and pro-business environments on economic prosperity is examined.
- Currency Stability and Inflation: The necessity of stable currency, particularly in relation to the US dollar, for economic recovery in countries like Argentina is highlighted.
- Taxation and Wealth Migration: The influence of income tax policies on the relocation of wealthy individuals and businesses is explored, with Florida and Texas cited as examples.
- Political Rhetoric and Economic Impact: The discourse touches upon how political statements and policies, such as those targeting billionaires, can affect economic sentiment and business decisions.
Tariffs, Trade, and Presidential Policies
The conversation begins with a discussion on the impact of Donald Trump's tariff policies. Arthur Laffer initially suggests that Trump's tariffs have "screwed the market" and caused a significant crash, drawing a parallel to the 1929 market decline where the market fell by 35% in one quarter due to tariffs. However, Laffer then pivots, suggesting Trump is using tariffs as a negotiation tactic for free trade, predicting that markets will "be through the ceiling" once this is achieved. Larry agrees, characterizing Trump's approach as "reciprocal free trade."
This leads to a debate about Ronald Reagan's trade policies. A soundbite is played where an individual states, "Ronald Reagan loved tariffs. He used them sparingly. He made a mistake in that... on finance, on trade it wasn't his strong suit, but he liked tariffs." Larry clarifies that Reagan was a free trader but strategically used tariffs on Japanese semiconductors and automobiles. Robert Lighthizer, then Deputy Trade Representative, and Larry, then Deputy Budget Director, were involved in these decisions. Both Laffer and Larry agree that Reagan was fundamentally a free trader, and Laffer believes Trump is too. They suggest that tariffs or voluntary trade agreements are sometimes used to "protect America and level the playing field."
Steve Moore concurs, stating that Reagan understood the value of trade and wanted to lower tariffs, noting that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) originated with Reagan. However, Moore also acknowledges that Reagan used tariffs strategically to secure better deals for the U.S. Moore then shifts to praising the current U.S. economy under Trump, highlighting its boom compared to stagnant economies in Europe and Japan, and China's near-recession. He attributes this success to deregulation, lower taxes, energy policy, and labels Trump as the "most pro-business president we've had in 50 years."
Economic Stabilization in Argentina
The discussion moves to Argentina, where Javier Milei has won local elections. Larry notes that the market reacted positively to Milei's win but emphasizes that he must address the Argentine peso. Larry states, "There's no such thing as an Argentine peso. It's a figment of your imagination, it does not exist." He argues that Milei needs to "reimagine the peso as a dollar" and link it to the dollar, either through a currency board or full dollarization, to combat inflation.
Arthur Laffer fully agrees, stating, "That is exactly what Milei did." He references Steve Hanke's advocacy for currency boards and mentions a team including Roque Fernández, Domingo Cavallo, and Carlos Rodríguez who tackled taxes, spending, currency, and trade together. Laffer believes Milei has popular support and congressional backing, and that the IMF loan was a hurdle that has now been overcome, potentially allowing for the payoff. Larry mentions working with Domingo Cavallo in the early '90s and reiterates the need for a similar currency stabilization measure.
The Future of Britain and Economic Policy
The conversation briefly touches upon Britain, with Larry asking Arthur Laffer if he will "fix England." Laffer states that Britain is "not fixed yet, but the plan for Britain is there. Prosperity through growth." He finds it interesting that, on average, a country celebrates its independence from Britain every six days, including the U.S. This, he argues, signifies what Britain has lost but also what it once possessed. Laffer believes Britain can return to prosperity by implementing "low broad-based flat tax, spending restraint, sound money, mineral regulations and free trade." He expresses hope that Nigel Farage and others can achieve this, though it will take time.
New York City Politics and Billionaires
The final segment focuses on New York City politics and the rhetoric surrounding billionaires. Larry expresses concern about the possibility of New York City electing a "communist" and criticizes a rally where speakers attacked billionaires as the "real problem." He argues that billionaires, assuming they don't break the law, will "save New York" and that if policies alienate them, they will relocate to places like Miami, Texas, or North Carolina. He notes that Bernie Sanders, AOC, Hakeem Jeffries, and Governor Hochul have aligned with this anti-billionaire sentiment.
Steve Moore humorously responds, "Well, I was never hired by a poor person, I don't know about you guys." He emphasizes that he likes rich people because "they employ people." Moore then presents data, likely compiled by Laffer, showing that many billionaires have moved from New York to Florida. He cites "Unleash Prosperity" numbers indicating Florida has imported $1 trillion of income from other states, attributing this to Florida's lack of an income tax. Laffer adds that Tennessee is another destination for those seeking to avoid income tax. The segment concludes with the assertion that billionaires are not inherently bad and that profits are essential.
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