C-Suite Conversation Series with Fanatics Events

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Key Concepts

• Organizational Culture: The shared values, beliefs, and behaviors that shape how an organization operates.
• C-Suite: The top-level executives of a company (CEO, CFO, COO, etc.).
• Executive Team: A group of senior leaders responsible for strategic decision-making and overall management.
• Intrapreneurship: The act of behaving like an entrepreneur within a larger organization.
• Flywheel Effect: A concept where a business's growth is driven by a self-reinforcing cycle of positive actions.
• Minimum Viable Product (MVP): The most basic version of a product or service that can be released to gather feedback.
• North Star: A guiding principle or ultimate goal that directs an organization's efforts.
• IQ and EQ: Intelligence Quotient (analytical and logical reasoning) and Emotional Quotient (ability to understand and manage emotions).
• NPS (Net Promoter Score): A metric used to gauge customer loyalty and satisfaction.

Fanatics Events: Building a C-Suite and Organizational Culture

This discussion features Traci Rosenthal from the Reuben Mark Initiative for Organizational Character and Leadership at CBS, moderating a C-Suite Conversation with leaders from Fanatics Events: Lance (CEO), Mike Armstrong (Senior Vice President, Business Operations), Lauren DeMaio (Vice President, Operations), and Scott Fisher (Head of Strategy). The conversation delves into how this executive team formed, operates, and builds a distinct organizational culture within the larger Fanatics entity, focusing on the competitive advantage of strong, collaborative C-suite partnerships.

The Genesis of Fanatics Events and its Leadership Team

• Lance's Background: Lance, CEO of Fanatics Events, has a significant history in building and scaling live events within larger organizations. He previously led ReedPop, where he was instrumental in creating events like Comic-Con, various exhibitions, and Star Wars Celebrations. His experience lies in building "a company within a company," fostering divergent yet complementary cultures and business models.
• The Fanatics Opportunity: Michael Rubin, CEO of Fanatics, approached Lance with the idea of creating a Comic-Con-like event for the sports world. This resonated with Lance's experience in intrapreneurship and building within established entities. The appeal was the opportunity to think and operate "big," a characteristic of Michael Rubin's leadership, contrasting with the more risk-averse nature of Lance's previous publicly traded company.
• Team Formation: The core team at Fanatics Events comprises individuals with prior working relationships, notably Lance and Mike (15 years) and Lance and Lauren (5 years), all having worked together at ReedPop. Scott Fisher, while not from ReedPop, joined Fanatics' corporate strategy team before moving to Events. This pre-existing familiarity was a deliberate choice, though it presented both advantages and disadvantages.

Defining Roles and Evolving Responsibilities

The initial bios provided a formal overview, but the team clarified their actual, evolving roles:

• Mike Armstrong: Initially responsible for business operations, budgeting, revenue generation, and strategy development. However, his role has significantly evolved, with Scott Fisher now leading strategy. Mike's current focus is on adapting to where problems arise and shedding tasks he's not best at as the team has grown from 3 to 26 people.
• Lauren DeMaio: As VP of Operations, her team handles event planning and execution, including vendor management, logistics, AV, security, and staffing. She has also taken on responsibility for building a talent operations team for Year 3. Fanatics Fest and WWE World are key events her team manages.
• Scott Fisher: Head of Strategy, he sets the strategic roadmap for live experiences and collaborates across the leadership team and company-wide executives. His prior experience at Fanatics' corporate strategy team and Bain provided a foundation for understanding the broader organization.
• Lance (CEO): Leads the strategic initiative for a global network of live events at the intersection of sports, collecting, and popular culture. He emphasizes building and the freedom that comes with creating something new.

The Fanatics Ecosystem and the Birth of Fanatics Fest

• Fanatics' Verticals: Fanatics operates across three main verticals: betting and gaming, licensed apparel, and collectibles (including trading cards, with licenses for MLB, NBA, and soon NFL).
• The Flywheel Concept: The company aims to leverage a flywheel effect by integrating these verticals. Customers acquired through one channel can be incentivized to engage with others, creating a rich enterprise machine.
• Brand Challenges: Fanatics faces a challenge of not always being a "beloved" brand. As a licensee, the company bears the brunt of negative sentiment if products are flawed or delayed, rather than the leagues or teams themselves.
• The Need for Live Events: The concept for Fanatics Fest emerged from the observation that while industries like film (South by Southwest), technology (CES), and popular culture (Comic-Con) have massive unifying live event platforms, sports lacked one. The goal was to create a platform that could celebrate, announce product launches, and elevate the entire sports, entertainment, and culture industry.
• Events as a Deep Engagement Tool: While digital campaigns reach millions shallowly, events reach a smaller audience deeply. This is crucial for Fanatics to build "super fans" and overcome its brand perception challenges by creating memorable, once-in-a-lifetime experiences.

Building the Executive Team: Advantages and Disadvantages of Familiarity

The team acknowledges the "friends and family" aspect of their formation, with significant prior working relationships.

• Advantages:
  • Trust and Understanding: Pre-existing relationships foster a high degree of trust and understanding of each other's working styles and capabilities.
  • Efficiency: Familiarity can lead to quicker decision-making and smoother collaboration.
  • Shared History: A common understanding of past successes and challenges can inform current strategies.
• Disadvantages:
  • Inclusion Challenges: For new members, it can be intimidating to break into an established "friend group," potentially creating an "ingroup" dynamic. Scott Fisher noted this when he joined, feeling like an "odd man out" initially.
  • Potential for Stagnation: Relying too heavily on past methods from previous organizations (like ReedPop) could hinder innovation. Scott's role, in part, was to question these established norms and introduce new perspectives.
  • Balancing Culture and Talent: Lance highlighted the tension between hiring for cultural fit and hiring for specialized talent. While he leans towards culture, he acknowledges that sometimes a higher caliber of specific expertise is needed, and mistakes can be made by prioritizing one over the other.

Individual Leadership Styles and Team Dynamics

The team members bring distinct styles that blend to create a cohesive unit:

• Lauren DeMaio: Described as a "combo platter," she is results-driven and operations-focused, but also deeply empathetic, prioritizing her team's well-being and fostering a family-like environment. Her actions, like hosting offsites at her home and showing concern for team members' personal lives, exemplify this.
• Scott Fisher: Initially coming from a consulting background, his style has evolved from seeking the "right answer" to understanding the process and timing of asking questions. He emphasizes learning from mistakes and believes in the power of positive intent within the team, where everyone is assumed to be working towards a common solution.
• Mike Armstrong: He craves harmony and consensus-building, preferring one-on-one interactions and working with individuals to improve their performance, rather than large team meetings.
• Lance: He is not a proponent of rigid structures or hierarchies, preferring individuals who can adapt and perform multiple functions. He believes specialization can be inefficient and emphasizes trust among team members to navigate ambiguity and evolving roles.

Navigating High Expectations and the "Big or Bust" Mentality

Fanatics operates with exceptionally high expectations, particularly from Michael Rubin, creating a "big or bust" environment.

• The "Minimum Viable Product" Contrast: Unlike organizations that embrace MVPs and iterative development, Fanatics demands immediate, significant impact. This creates pressure, as a public failure can be a major embarrassment.
• The Orlando Show Incident: Lance recounted a critical moment where a planned smaller card show in Orlando was struggling with ticket sales (500 tickets sold for an event four months out). Leadership's response was that the event had to be "amazing" or not happen at all, a stark contrast to the trial-and-error approach at ReedPop. This forced a re-evaluation of their strategy, shifting focus to creating a single, large-scale event like Fanatics Fest that could generate significant economic and brand impact.
• Balancing Internal and External Demands: Scott Fisher described the challenge of navigating this corporate structure while maintaining the startup-like agility and excitement. They must balance internal stakeholder management with the core mission of serving fans.

Measuring Success: Beyond the P&L

Measuring success for Fanatics Events involves a multi-faceted approach:

• Quantitative Metrics: Ticket sales, sponsorship revenue, and NPS scores remain crucial.
• Ecosystem Impact: Beyond direct P&L, success is measured by how events drive engagement with other Fanatics verticals:
  • Sign-ups for the betting and gaming platform.
  • Fanatics One memberships.
  • App downloads.
  • Merchandise sales.
• Qualitative Metrics:
  • Earned Media: The value of positive media coverage generated.
  • New Collector Acquisition: Creating new fans of the collectibles market.
  • Brand Loyalty and Sentiment: Building a beloved brand and fostering positive sentiment towards Fanatics.
• The "North Star": The ultimate guiding principle is to delight fans and create memorable experiences. This remains the core focus, even when navigating organizational pressures.

Understanding the Fanatics Fest Audience

The team has identified key audience segments for Fanatics Fest:

• Families: Approximately 30% of attendees come with children, viewing it as "Disney World for sports."
• Collectors: A significant portion attends to buy and engage with trading cards, drawing inspiration from traditional card shows.
• New York Super Fans: Dedicated fans of New York sports teams who want to see athletes from various leagues.
• WWE Fans: A surprisingly large and passionate segment that travels extensively for these events.

Managing Stress and Content in a Fast-Paced Environment

• Stress Management: The team emphasizes the importance of projecting calm and confidence to the broader team, even during intense pressure. Lance shared a personal anecdote about crying after the successful launch of Fanatics Fest Year 1, highlighting the immense stress carried internally. They rely on trusted individuals to share anxieties, while maintaining a composed front for the team. Lauren actively monitors team bandwidth and reallocates tasks to manage workload.
• Content Strategy: Planning for events like Fanatics Fest requires adapting to the "Zeitgeist." The team acknowledges the difficulty of planning for trends months in advance. Their approach involves a "guess and check" methodology, evolving their value proposition and understanding of the audience as they gather real data and feedback.

Advice for Aspiring Professionals in Sports and Entertainment

Lance offers the following advice:

• Thriving Industry: The sports and live entertainment sectors are currently thriving and attracting significant attention.
• Competitive Landscape: It's a highly competitive space.
• Broaden Your View: Look beyond traditional roles within leagues and teams. Explore the entire ecosystem, including media platforms, networks, and emerging areas around the edges.
• Open-mindedness: Be open to diverse ways of participating in the industry, as coveted spots in leagues and teams are highly competitive.

Conclusion and Key Takeaways

The Fanatics Events leadership team exemplifies how a group of individuals with shared history and complementary skills can build a successful venture within a larger, demanding organization. Their journey highlights the critical role of:

• Strategic Team Building: Balancing cultural fit with talent and recognizing the evolving needs of the business.
• Intrapreneurial Spirit: Creating a distinct culture and business model within an established corporate structure.
• Fan-Centricity: Maintaining a clear "North Star" focused on delighting fans, even amidst high-stakes corporate expectations.
• Adaptability and Resilience: Navigating ambiguity, high pressure, and evolving strategic directives.
• The Power of Collaboration: Leveraging diverse leadership styles and fostering trust to overcome challenges and achieve ambitious goals.

The conversation underscores that building an effective organizational culture and a high-performing C-suite is an ongoing process of learning, adaptation, and a deep commitment to a shared mission.