Brooks and Capehart on the pressure to end the government shutdown

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Key Concepts

  • Government Shutdown: A situation where Congress fails to pass appropriations bills, leading to the lapse of funding for government operations and programs.
  • SNAP Benefits (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program): A federal program that provides food assistance to low-income individuals and families.
  • Obamacare Subsidies: Financial assistance provided under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) to help individuals afford health insurance premiums.
  • Rescissions: The act of revoking or canceling a law, order, or agreement, in this context referring to the Trump administration's potential to take back previously appropriated funds.
  • Bellwether Races: Off-year elections that are seen as indicators of the national political mood and future electoral trends.
  • National Guard/Troops on Streets: The deployment of military personnel in domestic law enforcement roles, a controversial tactic discussed in the context of crime reduction and potential threats to democracy.
  • Threat to Democracy: The idea that certain governmental actions or policies could undermine democratic institutions and norms.

Government Shutdown and SNAP Benefits

The discussion begins with the impending government shutdown, with funding set to lapse on November 1st for key government benefit programs. A significant point of contention is the potential expiration of SNAP benefits. Two judicial rulings have mandated that the administration use reserve funds to cover SNAP benefits.

  • GOP Pressure Tactic: The GOP had been using the threat of SNAP benefit expiration as leverage to pressure Democrats to end the shutdown.
  • Impact of Rulings: Jonathan Capehart argues that these rulings do not significantly relieve pressure on Democrats. He points to two critical dates:
    1. November 1st: The start of open enrollment for Obamacare, when premium costs will become apparent, a key issue for Democrats.
    2. Election Tuesday: Off-year elections that are considered bellwethers and could influence the political calculus for resolving the shutdown.
  • Rescissions as a Factor: Capehart also highlights the issue of "rescissions," where the Trump administration seeks to reclaim congressionally appropriated funds, which Democrats oppose. This action undermines Congress's spending authority, making any agreement fragile as the President and OMB Director Russell Vought could unilaterally decide not to spend the money.
  • Pressure on Republicans: Capehart suggests that as November 1st and election Tuesday pass, pressure will likely increase on Republican leaders, particularly Senate Majority Leader Thune, to find a resolution to reopen the government.

Democratic Arguments and Strategy

David Brooks questions the coherence and resonance of the Democrats' argument for holding the line.

  • Focus on Subsidies: Brooks acknowledges that Democrats are emphasizing the health subsidies, which he believes is a coherent case, but questions if it's the most legitimate argument for the current moment in American history.
  • Pollster Influence: Brooks suggests that Democrats are prioritizing issues that poll well, such as healthcare, rather than a broader argument about a "threat to democracy," as pollsters indicate the public is more concerned about healthcare.
  • Strategic Timing of Subsidies: Brooks criticizes Democrats for scheduling the expiration of subsidies a year before an election, implying a desire to hide the cost, which he estimates would increase the national debt by $1.5 trillion over 10 years. He argues that policy changes should be pursued through voters, not government shutdowns.
  • Lack of Outrage: Brooks expresses dismay at the perceived lack of public outrage over the shutdown and its impact on vulnerable populations like SNAP recipients.

Deployment of Troops and Crime

The conversation shifts to the Trump administration's deployment of federal agents and the potential deployment of more troops in cities.

  • President's "Fantasy": Jonathan Capehart describes the president's actions as a "fantasy" being exercised on cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, and Portland, with threats to do the same in New York City.
  • Mayor's Perspective: Capehart recounts a conversation with Newark Mayor Ras Baraka, who stated, "you can't scare people into safety." Baraka emphasized that mayors want a willing and smart partner in the federal government, not an administration that dictates terms or sends troops regardless of local consent.
  • Lunacy of Stopping All Crime: Capehart calls the idea of stopping "all crime" by putting troops on the streets "lunacy," given the historical prevalence of violence.
  • Distinction in Tactics: David Brooks distinguishes between different federal actions. He criticizes ICE operations and the treatment of ships from Venezuela as "terrible" and an "atrocity."
  • National Guard and Crime Reduction: Brooks is less bothered by the National Guard's presence, noting their pleasant demeanor and boredom in Washington D.C. He acknowledges that more law enforcement generally correlates with less crime, but seeks empirical studies on the effectiveness of National Guard deployment in reducing crime. He notes a study in D.C. showing a noticeable drop in crime after two weeks of National Guard presence.
  • Democratic Messaging Error: Brooks believes Democrats make a mistake by stating "crime is coming down" because it doesn't resonate with people who still experience significant crime. He cites an example of a business owner who had to close due to crime, despite acknowledging overall crime statistics. He suggests Democrats should acknowledge crime as a real issue for people.
  • Threat to Democracy Argument: Capehart counters Brooks by arguing that deploying National Guard and Marines in cities like Los Angeles is a "harbinger of what could come" and a "threat to democracy." He fears that troops deployed for crime could have their orders changed by the president for other purposes. He believes that when people express opposition to National Guard deployment, it's not because they deny crime exists, but because they are looking ahead at potential authoritarian overreach.
  • Faith in Military Culture: Brooks disagrees with the "threat to democracy" argument regarding troop deployment, expressing "total faith in the culture of the U.S. military" to stay out of politics, citing their historical desire for non-involvement.

Off-Year Elections

The discussion briefly touches upon upcoming off-year elections in New Jersey, Virginia, and New York City.

  • Bellwether Significance: Capehart emphasizes that these races, particularly the Virginia governor's race, are viewed as "canary in the coal mine" and indicators of the national mood.
  • Democratic Wins: He suggests that Democratic victories in these races would change the tenor and tone of political discourse in Washington.

Conclusion

The conversation highlights the complex political dynamics surrounding the government shutdown, the differing perspectives on the effectiveness and implications of federal actions like troop deployment, and the potential impact of upcoming elections on the national political landscape. The core tension lies between the immediate policy disputes and the broader concerns about democratic norms and the role of government.

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