Amazon A Buy as Everybody Is Buying!
By Value Investing with Sven Carlin, Ph.D.
Amazon Investment Analysis: A Deep Dive into Recent Investor Activity & Future Potential
Key Concepts:
- Margin of Safety: A value investing principle emphasizing purchasing assets below their intrinsic value to mitigate risk.
- Capex (Capital Expenditure): Funds used by a company to acquire, upgrade, and maintain physical assets such as property, plants, buildings, and equipment.
- Intrinsic Value: The true, underlying value of an asset based on its future cash flows.
- P/E Ratio (Price-to-Earnings Ratio): A valuation metric comparing a company’s stock price to its earnings per share.
- AWS (Amazon Web Services): Amazon’s cloud computing platform.
- Mag 7: Refers to the seven largest US technology companies (Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Nvidia, Tesla, and Meta).
- Secular Tailwinds: Long-term trends that are expected to benefit a company or industry.
- Mode: A business with durable competitive advantages.
I. Recent Investor Activity & Valuation Context
The discussion centers around the recent significant purchases of Amazon (AMZN) stock by prominent value investors including Draen Miller, Clarman, Ecman, and Buffett. The stock’s performance over the past year has been relatively flat (1% gain) despite continued growth and investment by the company. This disconnect between price and underlying business performance is a key driver of investor interest. Currently, the stock is trading below the prices paid by some of these investors, presenting a potential opportunity. Bill Aman highlighted Amazon’s strengths: it’s the largest cloud business (by market share), benefits from secular IT infrastructure tailwinds, and is a dominant e-commerce operator, allocating 14% of his capital to the stock. He notes Amazon is trading at its lowest P/E ratio in recent history.
II. AWS, AI, and Growth Drivers
A major focus is on Amazon Web Services (AWS) and its role in driving future growth. While AWS experienced a temporary slowdown, it is now re-accelerating due to unmet demand. The company is investing heavily in infrastructure to accommodate this demand, evidenced by a recent $200 billion capital expenditure (capex) commitment – already booked and driven by existing customer demand. The speaker notes personal experience with AWS glitches, indicating the need for continued investment to maintain service quality (99% uptime). Beyond AWS, Amazon is also developing its own chips (competing with Nvidia) and experiencing strong growth in its advertising business. Recent financial results show 12% overall revenue growth and 17% operating income growth, with AWS contributing 24% growth and a 30%+ operating margin.
III. Cash Flow Dynamics & Long-Term Projections
While current free cash flow is negative due to increased capital expenditures, the expectation is that this is temporary. The speaker projects that if operating cash flow continues to grow (potentially reaching $250 billion in 5 years) and capex moderates (falling from $120 billion to $70 billion), Amazon could generate $180 billion in profits, justifying the current valuation. This long-term perspective is what attracts investors like Aman and Miller. The speaker emphasizes that investors are focusing on the long-term optionality within Amazon’s two core businesses.
IV. Intrinsic Value Analysis & Potential Upside
The speaker references a recent intrinsic value analysis performed on Amazon as part of a “Mag 7” review. Amazon was identified as the cheapest of the group. Using a discounted cash flow model, with an 8% growth rate initially declining to 10%, and a 10% discount rate, the intrinsic value is estimated at $179-180, close to the current stock price. This suggests an 8-9% long-term return, which is attractive given that the broader market is priced for a 4% return. A faster-than-expected realization of Amazon’s growth potential could lead to a 50% return in 2-3 years (15-20% annualized). The speaker suggests Amazon could potentially reach a $3 trillion valuation with $150 billion in net income, but this doesn’t need to be immediate; even the expectation of achieving these figures in the near future could drive re-pricing.
V. Personal Portfolio Considerations & Risks
The speaker acknowledges a past underestimation of Amazon’s value in 2023, stating they should have purchased the stock when it traded at a $1 trillion market capitalization. Regarding personal investment, the speaker currently will not add Amazon to their personal portfolio, as it doesn’t currently represent a “wow” opportunity and they have better alternatives. However, they are considering a small allocation to their model portfolio as a way to gain exposure to growth at a reasonable price. A key risk identified is the US market’s dominance (63% market share) and the potential for mean reversion towards 50%, which could weigh on future growth. While the speaker isn’t concerned about the capital spending, they prefer absolute valuation (seeking a P/E ratio of 18-17) over relative valuation.
VI. Notable Quotes
- “Amazon value investing is now at the lowest PE ratio over the last lots of years likely since ever.” – Bill Aman (as reported by the speaker)
- “It was my mistake in 2023. I had to dip a little bit on that situation because I knew that I could not lose money because I knew that Amazon at 1 trillion was a bargain.” – Vener (the speaker)
- “If Amazon situation happens faster than just the educational intrinsic value template that we use there it happens in three years then it means you have a 50% return in two three years that's what 15 20% per year.” – Vener (the speaker)
VII. Logical Connections & Synthesis
The video logically progresses from observing the actions of prominent investors to analyzing Amazon’s underlying business drivers, financial performance, and potential future growth. The intrinsic value analysis serves as a quantitative anchor, while the discussion of AWS, AI, and capex provides qualitative support for the bullish outlook. The speaker’s personal portfolio considerations add a layer of practical application, acknowledging the importance of diversification and opportunity cost.
Conclusion:
The analysis suggests that Amazon presents a compelling investment opportunity, particularly for long-term investors. While short-term concerns about capex exist, the company’s strong growth prospects, dominant market position in cloud computing, and reasonable valuation (P/E of 25) make it an attractive addition to a diversified portfolio. The recent purchases by renowned value investors further validate this perspective. The key takeaway is that Amazon is currently priced for an 8-9% return, offering a margin of safety and potential for significant upside if the company continues to execute its growth strategy.
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