AI and bitcoin just flashed a message investors can’t ignore

Yahoo FinanceAbout 8 min readDec 11, 2025Watch original
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Key Concepts

  • Tax-Efficient Investing: Integrating tax considerations into investment strategies to maximize after-tax returns.
  • Capital Gains vs. Income Tax: Understanding the difference in tax rates between short-term (ordinary income tax) and long-term (lower capital gains tax) investments.
  • Tax Loss Harvesting: Selling losing investments to offset capital gains and reduce tax liability.
  • Asset Placement: Strategically allocating different types of investments (e.g., high-yield vs. index funds) to taxable or retirement accounts.
  • AI Mania: The current market enthusiasm and investment in Artificial Intelligence technologies.
  • AI Ecosystem: The interconnected network of companies and technologies supporting AI development and deployment.
  • Valuation Myths: Debunking common misconceptions about the valuation of AI stocks and the broader market.
  • Market Pullbacks: The natural occurrence of temporary declines in stock prices and their role in market health.
  • Bitcoin Volatility: The inherent price fluctuations of Bitcoin and its comparison to traditional assets.
  • Stablecoins (USDC): Digital currencies pegged to fiat currencies, offering stability and utility for transactions within the crypto space.
  • Federal Reserve Policy: The central bank's actions regarding interest rates and their impact on the economy and markets.
  • Feast of the Seven Fishes: A traditional Italian-American Christmas Eve meal featuring multiple seafood dishes.

Tax-Efficient Investing Strategies

Kenny Pulcari emphasizes that investors often panic in December, scrambling to manage their portfolios. He highlights a crucial truth: "You don't get paid on your returns, you get paid on your after tax returns." Investing without considering taxes is a significant disadvantage. Professional investors integrate tax planning into their strategy before making investment decisions, asking questions like:

  • Is this a short-term or long-term position?
  • What is the holding period?
  • Should this be in a taxable or retirement account?
  • How can gains be offset without derailing the strategy?

Key Points:

  • Short-term vs. Long-term Gains: Selling a stock for a profit in less than a year incurs ordinary income tax, which is typically much higher than long-term capital gains tax. Holding a profitable trade for just one extra month can halve the tax bill.
  • Tax Loss Harvesting: December is an opportune time to sell losing positions to generate capital losses. These losses can then be used to offset capital gains, thereby boosting real returns.
  • Asset Placement:
    • High-yield investments (e.g., REITs, bond funds) are often best placed in tax-advantaged accounts (like IRAs) because their annual distributions are taxed.
    • Index funds or long-term winners are suitable for taxable accounts as they generate fewer taxable events.
  • Goal: The objective is not to "beat the tax code" but to prevent it from negatively impacting wealth building. Discipline and planning are rewarded by both the market and the tax system.

AI Mania: A Reality Check with Adam Johnson

Adam Johnson, manager of the American Ingenuity Fund, joins Kenny to discuss the current AI market. He debunks three common myths surrounding AI stocks:

Myth 1: Companies are spending too much on AI and can't afford it.

  • Fact: On average, S&P 500 companies spend only 1% of their revenues on AI.
  • Fact: Even the "Mag 7" (Amazon, Google, Meta, etc.), which spend around 20% of revenues on AI, can afford it because they are growing revenues at 30-35%.
  • Conclusion: Companies are not overspending; it's an investment necessary for growth.

Myth 2: AI stocks are trading in a bubble.

  • Fact: The NASDAQ currently trades at approximately 35 times earnings.
  • Comparison: Previous tech bubbles (2000-2001) saw P/E ratios of 75-90 times.
  • Fact: The S&P 500 trades at about 21 times forward earnings, which is within the historical range (17-24 times) for bull markets.
  • Fact: The S&P 500 has had four consecutive quarters of double-digit gains with record margins.
  • Conclusion: Current valuations are not indicative of a bubble; they are comfortable within a bull market context.

Myth 3: China is surpassing the US in AI.

  • Fact: China's DeepSeek, announced about 9-12 months prior, initially impacted Nvidia. However, it was later revealed that DeepSeek was built using Nvidia chips and stolen code from ChatGPT.
  • Conclusion: China is currently playing catch-up by copying existing technology, not innovating to the point of replacing US leadership.

Market Outlook: Johnson believes that as the new year approaches, investors will recognize these myths as realities, leading to renewed investment in AI stocks and a broader market rally.

The AI Ecosystem and Investment Opportunities

Kenny and Adam discuss how to leverage the AI theme by investing in its entire ecosystem, not just individual chip manufacturers.

  • Nvidia: A key player in AI calculations.
  • Marvell Technology (MRVL): Manufactures semiconductors crucial for managing data storage in large AI platforms. Marvell's acquisition aims to improve data management efficiency. It's considered a "must-own" name within the AI tech stack.
  • CoreWeave: Offers AI capacity as a service via the cloud.
  • Applied Digital: Owns and builds data centers, partnering with CoreWeave.
  • Sterling Infrastructure: Builds data centers.
  • GE Vernova: Generates electricity on-site to power data centers.

New Scale (SMR):

  • Discussed as a potential part of the AI ecosystem due to small modular nuclear reactors (SMRs) powering data centers.
  • Caveats: The company has no current revenues or earnings. Projected revenues of $750-$800 million are possible by 2028.
  • Long Cycle Product: Building SMRs is a lengthy process involving land acquisition, regulatory approval, component manufacturing, assembly, and testing.
  • Market Immaturity: While the technology exists (used by the military), it's new to the commercial sector and not yet proven or streamlined. Patience is required, similar to biotechnology investments.
  • Volatility: SMR has experienced significant price swings, from $50 to $20.

Market Pullbacks and Investor Psychology:

  • Pullbacks are Normal: Adam states that pullbacks are inevitable, citing recent drops in the S&P 500 (6%) and NASDAQ (8%). He notes that growth-oriented portfolios can experience larger drawdowns.
  • Healthy Correction: A pullback in AI names, like Marvell falling 40% from its high, is seen as healthy. Marvell has since recovered significantly.
  • Support Levels: Many AI stocks, including Nvidia and Microsoft, have recently pulled back to their long-term trend lines, found support, and bounced, which is a positive sign.
  • Midterm Election Year (2026): While midterm years can bring chaos, Adam expects 2-3 pullbacks of 8-10% annually, regardless of election cycles. These are not signs of the market's end but healthy corrections.
  • Investor Behavior: The worst mistake is panicking during a downturn and selling, only to miss the subsequent recovery. Emotional decisions should be avoided. High-quality investments with unchanged fundamental stories should be viewed as opportunities during market dips.

Bitcoin and Stablecoins

The conversation shifts to Bitcoin and its volatility.

  • Bitcoin's Volatility: Bitcoin experienced a significant drop from $125,000 to $80,000, breaking trend lines and entering bear market territory. Adam compares this volatility to Nvidia's past movements, where a significant pullback was followed by a new all-time high.
  • "Is Bitcoin Real?" Concern: The anxiety around Bitcoin's drawdowns stems from questions about its intrinsic value and utility compared to tangible products from companies like Nvidia or Microsoft.
  • Focus on Mechanics: Adam suggests spending less time on Bitcoin's price and more on its underlying mechanics.
  • USDC (USD Coin) by Circle (CRCL):
    • Functionality: USDC is a US dollar-backed stablecoin that allows users to hold dollar-equivalent value within a crypto wallet.
    • Mechanism: For every USDC issued, Circle purchases treasuries one-for-one. This ensures the value is locked in and pegged to the dollar.
    • Utility: USDC is a more stable and reliable option for money transfers than Bitcoin due to its fixed value.
    • Investment vs. Transaction: While USDC is excellent for transactions and as a store of value, it's not an investment vehicle as it doesn't appreciate in price.
    • Circle's IPO: Circle IPOed in June at $31, surged to $300, and has since pulled back to $75. Adam recently purchased shares in Circle.
  • Adam's Holdings: Adam does not own Bitcoin but owns Coinbase and Circle.
  • CleanSpark (CLSK):
    • Description: The lowest-cost Bitcoin miner, trading at 8-10 times earnings.
    • Dual Play: CleanSpark operates its own data centers powered by cheap energy and is converting excess Bitcoin mining capacity to AI data centers.
    • Valuation: It's considered a cheap investment with exposure to both crypto and AI.

Economic Outlook and Federal Reserve Policy

The discussion turns to the economic outlook for 2026 and potential Federal Reserve actions.

  • Expected December Rate Cut: Both Kenny and Adam anticipate a rate cut in December.
  • Fed Fund Futures: Pricing suggests at least one more cut by April.
  • Risk of Overstimulation: Kenny expresses concern about overstimulating the economy. He believes rates will settle around 3.5-3.75% by the end of December, potentially moving to 3-3.25%. Further cuts could reignite inflation, drawing parallels to the 1979-1980 period.
  • Gradualist Fed: Under Chairman Powell, the Fed has been gradualist, but this might change under a new administration.
  • Impact of Rate Cuts: 50-75 basis points of cuts would significantly benefit mortgages, home equity loans, student loans, and car loans.
  • Housing Market Concerns: A surge in housing prices due to lower mortgage rates could exacerbate affordability issues, a key theme for the midterm elections.
  • Housing Supply: High housing prices are partly due to a lack of inventory, as homeowners are reluctant to give up low mortgage rates.

Feast of the Seven Fishes: Linguini and Clams

Kenny concludes by introducing the first dish of his Christmas Eve "Feast of the Seven Fishes": Linguini and Clams.

  • Description: An iconic Italian dish characterized by the combination of clams, garlic, white wine, crushed red pepper, and pasta water ("tears of the gods").
  • Flavor Profile: The sauce is described as light, "ocean kissed," and clinging to the linguini.
  • Significance: This dish sets a clean, fresh, and bright tone for the entire Christmas Eve meal, honoring the sea and tradition.
  • Recipe: A QR code is available on screen for the full recipe.

The video ends with a reminder to subscribe to Trader Talk on various podcast platforms and to email trader [email protected] with questions or topic suggestions. A disclaimer states the content is not financial advice.

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