8 High Quality Undervalued Companies
By Joseph Carlson After Hours
Key Concepts
- Portfolio Management: Strategies for constructing and managing investment portfolios, including diversification, asset allocation, and performance tracking.
- High-Quality Companies: Businesses with strong fundamentals, competitive advantages (moats), and potential for long-term growth.
- Valuation Metrics: Tools used to assess the intrinsic value of a company, such as Price-to-Earnings (PE) ratio and Free Cash Flow (FCF) yield.
- Competitive Moats: Sustainable competitive advantages that protect a company's profitability from competitors.
- Recurring Revenue: Income streams that are predictable and consistent, often from subscriptions or long-term contracts.
- Media Conglomerate: A large company that owns multiple media businesses, such as studios, streaming services, and networks.
- Stock-Based Compensation: Compensation paid to employees in the form of stock or stock options, which can dilute earnings per share.
- Narrative Risk: The impact of negative public perception or market sentiment on a company's stock price, even if fundamentals remain strong.
- Financial TikTok: Social media content focused on financial advice, investment strategies, and market commentary.
Portfolio Update and Strategy
The speaker provides an update on his investment portfolio, emphasizing a strategy focused on identifying high-quality companies experiencing temporary dips or facing negative narratives.
- Portfolio Composition and Performance:
- The portfolio is tracked monthly using a document that details holdings, allocations, and performance against benchmarks like the S&P 500 and QQQ.
- Passive Income Portfolio: Shows a compounded annual growth rate (CAGR) of approximately 11.7%.
- Story Fund: Demonstrates significant outperformance with a CAGR of around 21%. This is attributed to a concentrated portfolio of 5-6 high-conviction bets, including substantial investments in Netflix, Amazon, Google, and Microsoft at their lows in 2022.
- Netflix, in particular, has seen a 6x increase since its bottom, significantly driving the Story Fund's performance.
- Year-to-date, the Story Fund is up 22%, even with a decline in Duolingo.
- Combined Portfolio Value:
- The combined portfolio value is $1,343,300 with $1,343,300 in gains.
- These gains do not include sold holdings or realized gains within current holdings, nor do they include dividends.
- Including previously sold positions adds approximately $100,000, bringing the total lifetime gain to around $530,000.
- Top Holdings and Gains:
- S&P Global is currently at the top, but Google is rapidly catching up and is expected to become the largest position due to continued buying and stock appreciation.
- Google: $46,800 in gains.
- Amazon: $46,400 in gains. The speaker notes the striking similarity in gains between Google and Amazon, expressing a preference for both.
- Netflix: $80,000 in gains.
- Other significant winners include Mastercard, Microsoft, Costco, Booking Holdings, ASML, Moody's, and Apple.
- Salesforce is currently a loser (-$7,000).
- Equifax is in the green, considered a bit early in its investment.
- Texas Roadhouse: Realized approximately $45,000 in gains after selling $30,000 of the position.
- Duolingo: Currently a loser (-$2,000).
- Portfolio Construction Philosophy:
- Diversification of Risk: The portfolio is intentionally constructed to minimize overlapping risks. Companies operate in different industries and markets with distinct customer bases. This approach aims to mitigate specific company risks, leaving only macro risks, which are addressed by investing in companies with strong balance sheets and resilience.
- Wide Moats and Recurring Revenue: A strong preference is given to companies with wide economic moats, particularly those with highly recurring revenue models (subscriptions). This provides predictable income and high operating leverage.
- Examples of Recurring Revenue:
- S&P Global: Massive subscription business.
- Google: Hundreds of millions of subscribers.
- Amazon: Amazon Prime (300 million subscribers).
- Netflix: 300+ million subscribers.
- Mastercard: Highly recurring revenue.
- Microsoft: Majority of revenue from subscriptions.
- Costco: Membership-based subscription model.
- Booking Holdings: Building out a subscription model.
- Long-Term Goals: The objective is to double the portfolio value over the next five years, moving from $1 million to $2 million, and so on.
Companies Currently Considered Undervalued
The speaker identifies several companies that he believes are currently trading at attractive valuations due to market dips or negative narratives.
1. ASML
- Dual-Pronged Moat:
- Technology: Highly difficult to replicate.
- Distribution & Partnerships: Massive distribution network and long-term customer partnerships that are hard to disrupt.
- Financials:
- Revenue is growing over time.
- Cash flow can be lumpy due to accounting practices (invoicing and payment timing), but free cash flow per share is growing.
- Engaged in share buybacks and growing earnings per share (EPS).
- Outlook: Believed to be more insulated from industry cyclicality than peers. The speaker considers it undervalued and estimates a potential fair trade price of $1,000.
2. Salesforce
- Fundamentals:
- Stock price has declined, but cash flow has increased.
- Free cash flow per share is growing faster due to share buybacks.
- Stock-Based Compensation (SBC): While historically a concern, SBC has been flat for three years while free cash flow has tripled. SBC now represents only 25% of free cash flow, less than Meta. This indicates improved capital efficiency.
- Customer Growth: Total customer growth and paid customer growth are increasing quarterly.
- Sales Funnel: Similar to Spotify, with free members potentially converting to paid over time.
- Valuation:
- Near an all-time low valuation.
- PE ratio is at its lowest point in five years.
- Free cash flow yield is at an all-time high, making it the cheapest it has ever been.
3. Duolingo
- Volatility: The most volatile stock in the speaker's portfolio, with significant price swings.
- Competitive Threat (AI Translation): Concerns exist about live language translation tools from companies like Apple and Meta.
- Speaker's Perspective: The speaker believes the motivation for language learning extends beyond the lack of translation tools, citing other motivating factors. He is willing to be wrong on this holding but wants to give it a year or so.
- Fundamentals:
- Charts show consistent upward trends.
- Valuation: Undervalued based on a free cash flow yield of 2.2% and rapid growth.
4. Equifax
- Profile: A more conservative, steady compounder with less volatility and potential for upside.
- Moat: Deeply entrenched products across various customer bases (government, real estate, employers).
- Products: Credit reporting, workforce verification solutions.
- Growth: Products are growing rapidly despite high interest rates and unaffordable mortgages.
- Outlook: Expected to benefit significantly if interest rates decrease or housing becomes more affordable. Even without these improvements, it's considered a decent company that should compound at an attractive rate.
5. Adobe
- Recent Performance: Reported fiscal Q3 results that beat estimates and raised financial year 2025 outlook, citing strong demand and AI monetization.
- AI Monetization: AI-infused annual recurring revenue has surpassed $5 billion.
- Competitive Threats: Concerns exist regarding new technologies and competitors like Canva, Figma, and Google's Gemini AI image editing feature.
- Speaker's Perspective: While acknowledging the competitive threats and investor concerns, the speaker points to the numbers.
- Digital Media Growth: Growing at 11.6%, including Creative Cloud, which was thought to be under threat.
- Total Performance Obligations: Grown by 13%, indicating consistent growth.
- Valuation:
- PE ratio of 15.
- Free cash flow yield of 6.3% (around 5% after factoring in stock-based compensation).
- The free cash flow yield is the highest in five years.
- The PE ratio is the lowest in the company's history, indicating maximum investor bearishness.
- Management Action: Aggressively buying back shares, reducing the share count by 4% year-over-year, which accelerates EPS and FCF per share growth.
- Potential Upside: If Adobe is rerated to a 20 or 25 PE multiple, the stock price could double from its current level of $350 to $700.
6. UnitedHealth Group
- Past Issues: Experienced a rough patch due to writing "bad policies" and overinsuring, leading to higher-than-expected utilization and costs. This is expected to take a couple of years to work through the financials.
- Valuation:
- Trades at cheap valuations: 22 PE ratio, 7.8% free cash flow yield.
- Stock price is down 28% despite a recent 32% recovery in the past month.
- Outlook: Considered "too big to fail" and expected to recover. Buying now is seen as a good time, looking forward over the next couple of years.
7. Google (Mentioned Briefly)
- Outlook: Expected to reach $300 per share.
- Performance: Continues to prove doubters wrong. Investors in five years will likely wish they had bought at $240 per share.
8. Amazon (Mentioned Briefly)
- Outlook: Morgan Stanley reiterates it as a top pick at $300 price.
- Grocery Delivery: Expanding same-day fresh grocery delivery to 1,000 new cities, addressing the competitive threat from Walmart's grocery delivery.
- AWS: Building massive clusters for GPU processing to increase fulfillment capacity. A SemiAnalysis report suggests AWS growth will surpass investor expectations.
- Catalysts: Numerous bullish catalysts expected over the next five years.
News: Potential Warner Bros. Discovery Buyout
A significant development in the media industry is the reported interest from Paramount and Skyance (owned by David Ellison, son of Larry Ellison) in acquiring Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD).
- Key Players:
- David Ellison: Son of Larry Ellison (worth over $400 billion), actively acquiring media companies.
- Skyance & Paramount: David Ellison's companies, which recently acquired Paramount and made rapid changes (e.g., securing South Park, a deal with UFC).
- Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD): The target company, formed by the merger of Warner Bros. and Discovery.
- Deal Rationale:
- To create a massive media empire that can compete with Netflix and Disney.
- The bid would encompass WBD's entire company, including cable networks and movie studios.
- This move aims to preempt potential bidding wars from tech giants like Amazon and Apple for WBD's streaming and studio units.
- Content and Assets:
- WBD is home to franchises like Barbie, DC Comics, Harry Potter, and TV shows like The White Lotus.
- It also owns cable news networks like CNN, TBS, and TNT.
- Implications for Netflix:
- Negative for Netflix: This combination would be detrimental to Netflix.
- Content Licensing: Netflix currently licenses content from both Paramount and WBD (e.g., Dune on Netflix). A merged entity would have more leverage, making it harder and more expensive for Netflix to license content.
- Netflix's Resilience: Despite this, Netflix is well-prepared with its own content production capabilities and enormous budgets, still possessing roughly double the content investment capital of the combined Paramount/Skyance/WBD entity. Historically, Netflix has weathered such industry changes.
- Regulatory Scrutiny: The scale of this potential combination could attract antitrust and regulatory review.
Financial TikTok: Customer Service Job Interview
The episode concludes with a segment from "financial TikTok" showcasing a unique approach to a customer service job interview.
- The Interviewee: John Cena (not the wrestler), who claims eight years of marketing experience and one year of customer support.
- The Method: The interviewee plays theme music during his interview responses.
- He starts with heroic music for his self-introduction and qualifications.
- The interviewer, who is taking the interview seriously, points out the distraction.
- The interviewee then expresses desperation and mentions disabilities, using tools to make life easier.
- Speaker's Reaction:
- Finds the situation hilarious and impressive in its timing and execution, despite the interviewer's professional demeanor.
- Suggests that if the job is declined, sad music could be played.
- Highlights the "best of TikTok" as a humorous example of an unconventional interview strategy.
Synthesis/Conclusion
The video presents a multi-faceted approach to investing and market analysis. The speaker meticulously details his portfolio's performance and construction, emphasizing diversification and recurring revenue models. He then identifies several high-quality companies that he believes are undervalued due to temporary negative narratives, providing detailed financial and qualitative justifications for each. The news segment highlights a significant potential shift in the media landscape with the proposed acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery, and its implications for Netflix. Finally, a lighthearted segment from TikTok offers a humorous take on job interviewing. The overarching theme is the identification of value in overlooked or temporarily distressed high-quality assets, coupled with a strategic approach to portfolio management and an awareness of broader market and industry trends.
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