10 TSX Stocks! 5% Yield, Growth... (CNQ, SU, ENB, TRP, CP, SLF, DOL, BIP, TOI, MGA)
By Value Investing with Sven Carlin, Ph.D.
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Key Concepts
- Canadian Natural Resources (CNQ): Oil and gas producer, significant reserves, dividend yield, volatility tied to oil prices.
- Suncor Energy: Similar to CNQ, oil and gas producer, dividend yield, volatility tied to oil prices, takeaway capacity issues.
- Enbridge: Pipeline operator, high dividend yield, significant debt, growth reliant on debt financing.
- Canadian Pacific Kansas City (CPKC): Railroad company, low dividend yield, strong growth outlook, cyclical nature.
- Dollarama: Retailer, high P/E ratio, strong growth, international expansion risk.
- Brookfield Infrastructure Partners (BIP): Infrastructure company, high growth claims, significant debt, financial engineering concerns.
- Topicus.com: Software company, high P/E ratio, growth dependent on European market and AI impact.
- Magna International: Auto parts manufacturer, cyclical business, sensitive to automotive production downturns.
- Value Investing: Focus on low risk, high reward, margin of safety.
- Cyclicality: Industries that experience significant ups and downs based on economic cycles (e.g., oil, railroads, auto parts).
- Margin of Safety: Buying assets at a price significantly below their intrinsic value to protect against unforeseen risks.
- Financial Engineering: Using complex financial structures and debt to achieve reported growth or returns.
Canadian Natural Resources (CNQ)
- Performance: Performed well over the last decade, especially since the pandemic due to rebounding oil prices. Businesses have scaled up.
- Financials:
- Dividend Yield: 5.67%.
- Reserves: Extremely large, indicating long-term production potential.
- Production: Second largest natural gas producer in Canada, with a mix of natural gas, heavy oil, and light oil.
- Shareholder Returns: Significant, including growth in production, increased dividends, and share repurchases.
- Balance Sheet: Strong.
- Acquisitions: Highly accretive.
- Shareholder Reward Policy: Based on net debt and free cash flow.
- Free Cash Flow (FCF) Sensitivity to Oil Prices:
- At $75/barrel: $5 FCF per share.
- At $85/barrel: $7 FCF per share.
- At $65/barrel: $3.5 FCF per share.
- At $60/barrel: $3 FCF per share.
- At $55/barrel: $1-2 FCF per share.
- Investment Thesis & Risks:
- Pros: Good dividend, buybacks, some growth, production efficiency.
- Cons: High volatility due to oil prices. The stock's performance is directly tied to oil prices, not necessarily the company's operational strengths. A significant drop in oil prices (e.g., below $50) can severely impact earnings and shareholder rewards.
- Risk/Reward: Currently considered medium risk, medium reward. Lacks a significant margin of safety at current prices. If oil prices drop significantly, the dividend might need to be cut.
- Valuation: Fairly priced, but not stellar. Offers a potential 7-8% return with some risk.
Suncor Energy
- Similarities to CNQ: Also an oil and gas producer with a similar risk profile tied to oil prices.
- Dividend: Slightly lower yield than CNQ.
- Volatility: Exhibits significant stock price volatility.
- Key Risks: Oil price volatility, Canada's takeaway capacity issues.
- Value Proposition: Long-life advantaged assets, vertical integration, returning capital to shareholders (dividends, buybacks).
- Valuation: Likely priced in, with a business environment suggesting lower cash flow than peak scenarios. Offers a 6-7% dividend yield but not much more.
Enbridge
- Business: Pipeline operator.
- Financials:
- Dividend Yield: 5.66%.
- Total Return (7 years): ~10% per year (dividend + price appreciation).
- Growth Guidance: 3% per share growth.
- Key Issue: Debt: Significant debt levels, with growth heavily reliant on debt financing (50% increase in debt).
- Argument: Growth funded by debt without a proportional increase in dividend growth suggests increased risk. The speaker expresses concern about this strategy, comparing it to government deficits.
- Risk/Reward: Considered extremely risky despite a good dividend. The speaker would not hold this stock due to the debt structure. However, acknowledges that lower interest rates could benefit the company.
- Valuation: Fairly priced.
- Risk: Regulatory issues, pipeline challenges, and a yield not significantly higher than risk-free government bonds (10-year Canada yield at 3.5%). Adjusted debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 5x is considered high.
Canadian Pacific Kansas City (CPKC)
- Business: Railroad company.
- Financials:
- Dividend Yield: 0.86%.
- P/E Ratio: 23.
- Performance: Stock has performed well due to strong earnings growth.
- Outlook: High single-digit revenue growth, double-digit adjusted EPS growth, and adjusted free cash flow growth expected.
- Leverage: Some leverage, particularly after the Southern acquisition.
- Argument: The speaker advocates for buying cyclical stocks like railroads during downturns, citing Warren Buffett's acquisition of Burlington Northern at a 10% yield, compared to CPKC's current 1% yield. Buying in good times is seen as too expensive.
- Investment Strategy: Buy during bad times, sell in good times.
Dollarama
- Business: Retailer.
- Financials:
- Dividend Yield: Less than 1%.
- P/E Ratio: 40.
- Growth: Growing at 10% per year.
- Valuation Concern: P/E ratio of 40 is significantly higher than its growth rate (10%), indicating it's in "exuberant territory."
- Key Risk: International Expansion: Expansion into Latin America and Australia is seen as a significant risk, with many retailers failing in these markets.
- Argument: A P/E of 40 implies that growth must continue indefinitely. Any slowdown in growth or decline in earnings could lead to a severe valuation multiple contraction (e.g., P/E dropping to 12-15), resulting in substantial losses (potentially -80%).
- Speaker's Sentiment: Expresses concern that this stock selection might make him unpopular in Canada.
Brookfield Infrastructure Partners (BIP)
- Business: Infrastructure company.
- Claims:
- 10% per year growth target.
- Deploying capital at 12-15% target returns.
- 9% distribution increases.
- 4x backlog indicating future growth.
- Speaker's Concerns:
- Debt: Significant leverage. Interest expense is over 60% of operating costs after direct operating costs.
- Financial Engineering: The reported 12-15% returns are questioned, with the speaker calculating a 4% return on assets based on operating cash flow. This suggests the reported returns are achieved through financial engineering rather than fundamental asset performance.
- Cost of Debt: 7.3%.
- Lack of Buffett's Investment: The absence of Warren Buffett's investment is seen as a red flag.
- Argument: The company appears to be a "house of cards" built on debt and financial engineering. The speaker advises reading the full annual report to assess its sustainability.
Topicus.com
- Business: Software company (part of Constellation Software).
- Financials:
- P/E Ratio: 66 (down from previous highs).
- Revenue Growth: 20% (with 5% organic growth).
- Concerns:
- High P/E: A P/E of 66 requires very high, sustained growth (2x for many years) to justify.
- AI Impact: Uncertainty surrounding the impact of AI on the software industry, potentially leading to oversupply of programmers or significant improvements.
- European Market: Dependence on European spending and economic conditions.
- Argument: Growth stock valuation is highly sensitive to growth rates. Any deviation from expected growth can lead to significant stock price declines.
Magna International
- Business: Auto parts manufacturer.
- Cyclicality: Highly cyclical business, sensitive to automotive production levels.
- Risk: A severe recession could lead to significant losses, as seen in historical downturns. The speaker cites a former Ford VP stating a 15% drop in production can be the difference between decent performance and severe losses.
- Investment Strategy: Advised to look at these cyclical businesses during recessions, not during periods of stable or declining production.
Conclusion on Canada
- Overall Sentiment: The Canadian market appears "okay" but not compelling for investment "now."
- Recession Risk: Most businesses carry significant recession risk.
- Alternative Investments: The speaker prefers other investments, such as Amsterdam Commodities (niche food business, defensive, 8% earnings growth, 5% dividend yield).
- Canadian Natural Resources: Placed in the "risky and dependent on recessions" category.
- Speaker's Position: Acknowledges the potential for good returns if economic conditions remain favorable (e.g., continued money printing, low rates), but as an "absolute investor," prefers better risk-reward profiles. He expresses a desire to visit Canada despite potentially unpopular opinions.
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